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Catastrophic hunger - 40% of Gaza's population at risk of famine

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Createaplant · 30/12/2023 17:13

Being reported by the Guardian:

40% of Gaza’s population is at risk of famine, the United Nations Relief and Works Agency said on Saturday.

“Every day is a struggle for survival, finding food and water,” the UN agency for Palestinian refugees added.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2023/dec/30/israel-gaza-war-live-hamas-palestinians-khan-younis-deaths-un-aid-us#:~:text=40%25%20of%20Gaza's%20population%20is,is%20grappling%20with%20catastrophic%20hunger.

Too sad and completely unnecessary. If only adequate aid, food and water was allowed in.

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EmberLight · 30/12/2023 21:45

Those videos of desperate starving Gazans are appalling. It's absolutely shocking. Israel frustrating all attempts to provide aid - there are no words for this level of depravity. I've never seen anything like it. And it's supported by the US/UK/EU.

FOJN · 30/12/2023 21:36

Jingleballs2 · 30/12/2023 21:27

Can clearly see the gun in this one.i obviously don't know the circumstances of the particular article posted so can't comment t. But people are so quick to blame israel for their plight.
Who kicked off the conflict leading to this? Hamas. Who is taking the aid however much there is or isn't? Hamas. Who won't give up the hostages to help the situation? Hamas

Well yes I can clearly see the guns in that photo but I have no idea where or when that photo was taken. The trucks look nothing like the aid trucks going into Gaza.

Was it attached to an article with more detail?

Why are you posting a random photo to support your point when the lack of verification undermines it?

Why do you resort to "but they started it" when you can't evidence your claim?

Maybe Hamas is commandeering aid but you haven't provided anything to prove it.

Createaplant · 30/12/2023 21:34

The Israeli government is using starvation of civilians as a method of warfare in the occupied Gaza Strip, which is a war crime, Human Rights Watch said today.

Israeli forces are deliberately blocking the delivery of water, food, and fuel, while willfully impeding humanitarian assistance, apparently razing agricultural areas, and depriving the civilian population of objects indispensable to their survival.

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Createaplant · 30/12/2023 21:32

@Jingleballs2 hate to burst your pro-IDF bubble. From the Human Rights Watch report:

  • The Israeli government is using starvation of civilians as a method of warfare in the Gaza Strip, which is a war crime.
  • Israeli officials have made public statements expressing their aim to deprive civilians in Gaza of food, water, and fuel – statements reflected in Israeli forces’ military operations.
  • The Israeli government should not attack objects necessary for the survival of the civilian population, lift its blockade of the Gaza Strip, and restore electricity and water.
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Jingleballs2 · 30/12/2023 21:27

Can clearly see the gun in this one.i obviously don't know the circumstances of the particular article posted so can't comment t. But people are so quick to blame israel for their plight.
Who kicked off the conflict leading to this? Hamas. Who is taking the aid however much there is or isn't? Hamas. Who won't give up the hostages to help the situation? Hamas

Catastrophic hunger - 40% of Gaza's population at risk of famine
FOJN · 30/12/2023 21:27

Jingleballs2 · 30/12/2023 21:13

It's not from YouTube but may be on there as well I dont know.

They absolutely do have weapons! Obviously it's hard to get a screenshot and I can't post either video to here. But believe what you want eh

What sort of weapons?

It looks like they might be holding sticks but I can't see any guns.

BabaBarrio · 30/12/2023 21:24

Jingleballs2 · 30/12/2023 21:13

It's not from YouTube but may be on there as well I dont know.

They absolutely do have weapons! Obviously it's hard to get a screenshot and I can't post either video to here. But believe what you want eh

I did reverse image on Google and that’s what came up. I am happy to let people watch an entire in focus video and make up their own minds.

Hamas may be taking some aid as it comes into Gaza from the south, but that doesn’t explain how they would be riding on top of an empty UN convoy that had already dropped off its aid and was going from North Gaza to South Gaza along the route IDF told the UN to go down and if Hamas had hijacked that empty convoy, why wouldn’t the UN say so?

As we can see with the situation now, it’s beyond any control. Starving civilians are mobbing every aid truck as it comes in.

Createaplant · 30/12/2023 21:23

Regardless of if Hamas are taking some of the minimal aid that comes in, Israel are not allowing enough aid in, and are bombing aid convoys. Aid organisations cannot in the present situation organise aid distribution or get humanitarian workers effectively engaged.

This could be easily sorted by Israeli govt. They are using starvation as a weapon of war.

And posters as usual want to focus on Hamas, misdirecting away from IDF who has the power in its hands to change the situation.

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Jingleballs2 · 30/12/2023 21:13

BabaBarrio · 30/12/2023 20:56

Huh funny. Those blurry screenshots come from a YouTube video that claims it is Hamas hijacking a Red Crescent aid convoy the second it crosses from Rafah but no one on any of the vehicles is armed with any weapons. There is no Hamas insignia.

They look like aid workers to me. Wearing hoodies because it’s winter and a few are holding the sticks with hooks that you use to secure the tarpulin over the load.

The aid has to be accompanied into Gaza because the starvation is so bad that Palestinians are fighting over aid trucks. They aren’t queueing up calmly anymore. Civil order has broken down. So you need a few workers to go with the aid convoy to distribute the food fairly.

It's not from YouTube but may be on there as well I dont know.

They absolutely do have weapons! Obviously it's hard to get a screenshot and I can't post either video to here. But believe what you want eh

BabaBarrio · 30/12/2023 21:09

It is apocalyptic. This is beyond justifiable by any measure.

Createaplant · 30/12/2023 21:08

@BabaBarrio they look absolutely desperate.

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BabaBarrio · 30/12/2023 21:05

This was yesterday. This is how hungry people are

The video you screenshotted was 11 days ago, back when a few workers could manage the mobs.

Because 21 days ago this was happening

Desperate for food, hungry refugees swarm aid truck in Gaza

Video shows thousands of refugees swarming an aid truck in Gaza, desperate for food as the Israel-Hamas war continues.Subscribe to CTV News to watch more vid...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvmQ3n8ZIk4

BabaBarrio · 30/12/2023 20:56

Jingleballs2 · 30/12/2023 20:39

The aid convoy probably looked like this one

Huh funny. Those blurry screenshots come from a YouTube video that claims it is Hamas hijacking a Red Crescent aid convoy the second it crosses from Rafah but no one on any of the vehicles is armed with any weapons. There is no Hamas insignia.

They look like aid workers to me. Wearing hoodies because it’s winter and a few are holding the sticks with hooks that you use to secure the tarpulin over the load.

The aid has to be accompanied into Gaza because the starvation is so bad that Palestinians are fighting over aid trucks. They aren’t queueing up calmly anymore. Civil order has broken down. So you need a few workers to go with the aid convoy to distribute the food fairly.

Hamas terrorists hijack humanitarian aid trucks moments after they enter Gaza from Egypt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmYW1gENEU4

BabaBarrio · 30/12/2023 20:41

PurpleChrayne · 30/12/2023 20:06

All that needs to happen is for Hamas to release the hostages and stand down.

They have refused a recent ceasefire, and broke the last one.

I'm not sure how many times this needs to be explained on these threads.

There's a simple solution.

This doesn’t look like refusing a ceasefire.
https://www.euronews.com/2023/12/28/fears-israel-hamas-war-could-expand-amid-strikes-on-central-gaza
Israel expands offensive as Hamas warns only permanent ceasefire will free hostages. A Hamas official said Thursday that a “partial or temporary cessation of aggression” wouldn’t be enough to free the more than 100 hostages who Israel says remain in captivity in Gaza.

As for the ceasefire the end of November, Israel broke it in several ways starting on Day #1 when they opened fire, on Palestinian civilians in Gaza, killing two and wounding 11. It’s no wonder it eventually broke down completely.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/israeli-troops-fire-at-palestinians-attempting-to-return-to-northern-gaza-during-cease-fire

Israel expands offensive as Hamas warns only permanent ceasefire will free hostages

Fears Israel Hamas war could 'expand' amid strikes on central Gaza

"They are so thin. It's cold, it's windy," said one Palestinian woman who gave birth to quadruplets in a refugee camp bombed by Israel.

https://www.euronews.com/2023/12/28/fears-israel-hamas-war-could-expand-amid-strikes-on-central-gaza

Jingleballs2 · 30/12/2023 20:39

Createaplant · 30/12/2023 20:24

@Jingleballs2 or the IDF are attacking the aid convoys: (Guardian yesterday)

UN humanitarian chief 'strongly condemns' attack on aid convoy

The UN’s top aid official has issued a strong condemnation after reports that Israeli troops opened fire on an aid convoy in the Gaza Strip on Thursday.

As we reported earlier, the head of the UN agency for Palestinian refugees (UNRWA) affairs in Gaza said Israeli soldiers fired at an aid convoy as it returned from northern Gaza along a route designated safe by the Israeli military.

Martin Griffiths, the UN emergency relief coordinator, said the convoy was fired upon despite being “clearly marked” and “its movements coordinated with the parties”.

“Attacks on humanitarian workers are unlawful,” he posted to social media, adding that “the conflict must stop”.

The aid convoy probably looked like this one

Catastrophic hunger - 40% of Gaza's population at risk of famine
Catastrophic hunger - 40% of Gaza's population at risk of famine
BabaBarrio · 30/12/2023 20:32

https://www.unrwa.org/newsroom/official-statements/gaza-strip-unrwa-calls-unimpeded-and-safe-access-deliver-much-needed

FROM PHILIPPE LAZZARINI, UNRWA COMMISSIONER GENERAL AMMAN, 29 December 2023 – “Over the past days, several statements from Israeli officials have insinuated or directly held UNRWA responsible for gaps in aid deliveries in the Gaza Strip. These statements were amplified by Israeli and other mainstream and social media, creating a stream of baseless misinformation. “Last week, intense diplomatic efforts led to UNSC resolution 2720, demanding immediate, safe and unhindered delivery of humanitarian assistance at scale directly to the Palestinian civilian population throughout the Gaza Strip. However, the delivery of much needed and urgent aid continues to be limited in quantities and riddled with logistical hurdles. “For the first two weeks of the war, the Israeli Authorities imposed a hermetic siege on the Gaza Strip, banning the entry of all supplies including food, water, medicine and fuel. “The first delivery of humanitarian aid was allowed on 21 October following a complicated and lengthy verification process including re-routing trucks via Israel. Since then, despite some increase in the trucks mostly from Egypt and through the Rafah crossing, it has remained derisory in the face of immense humanitarian needs. These deliveries did not include fuel until 18 November, thus strictly limiting the ability of UNRWA and other humanitarian organisations to operate. “UNRWA called for the opening of other crossings to allow a substantive flow of basic and urgently needed humanitarian supplies. With the opening of the Karem Abu Salem (Kerem Shalom) for entry of trucks into Gaza, the humanitarian community anticipated a much-awaited change in the scale and scope of the convoys, which did not happen. “With severe restrictions on humanitarian access from the Israeli Authorities, the humanitarian operation faces several challenges:

  • Constant bombardment, airstrikes and fighting.
  • Restricted access inside the Strip, especially to the north including crossing Israeli Army checkpoints on the frontlines.
  • A state of despair among the communities showing up at UNRWA warehouses to take supplies or interrupt aid trucks picking food to eat on the spot.
  • A breakdown of law and order, making it difficult for UNRWA to secure the convoys.
  • Long delays at the crossing points of Rafah and Karem Abu Salem.
  • Significant security incidents including near Karem Abu Salem, deeming the area insecure.
  • Unannounced, uncoordinated prisoner and casualty transfers from Israel have brough the operation on Karem Abu Salem to a halt (for hours).
  • Regular cuts in telecommunications including internet and mobile telephone. Since the war began, we have recorded seven cuts, with some up to 72 hours also impacting aid deliveries.
“The recent assessments on hunger in Gaza should not therefore come as a surprise, given very low supplies and the near total collapse of the private sector, including commerce and shops. The entire population of Gaza of 2.2 million people is now almost exclusively dependent on humanitarian assistance including food. “I call on the Israeli Authorities, other parties to the conflict and those with influence over them to safeguard an environment for safe and unimpeded delivery of humanitarian aid, and therefore to:
  • Ensure that humanitarian supplies to the Gaza Strip match the overwhelming needs including fuel, food, medicine, water and hygiene material also for those with specific needs like women, adolescent girls and people with disabilities.
  • Adhere to the de-confliction processes and refrain from attacks and fighting on or around crossing points or aid workers and convoys across the Gaza Strip.
  • Open safe and regular routes to access northern Gaza to deliver assistance to people in need and civilian facilities including hospitals like Shifa and others.
  • Remove the ban on the deliveries of commercial supplies to the private sector so that the markets can re-open.
  • Facilitate the delivery of humanitarian assistance with less bureaucratic hurdles, delays and put an end to baseless accusations.
“This is not the time to exchange accusations and promote misinformation. International humanitarian law is very clear: The State of Israel as the occupying power must ensure that the population has access to and is provided with basic services. Likewise, all parties to the conflict must facilitate humanitarian access to all those in need. Food, water, fuel and all humanitarian assistance must never be used as a weapon of war. Aid must never be diverted or politicized. “UNRWA calls once again on the media to verify their reports and cross-check information including statements from Government officials, before publishing information”.

Security Council adopts key resolution on Gaza crisis; Russia, US abstain

The Security Council has adopted a resolution on the ongoing crisis in Gaza, with 13 votes in favour, and the US and Russia abstaining. The resolution, among other points, demands immediate, safe and unhindered delivery of humanitarian assistance at sc...

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BabaBarrio · 30/12/2023 20:27

World Food Programme posted this today on the hunger situation.
https://x.com/WFP/status/1741157694067655122?s=20

https://x.com/WFP/status/1741157694067655122?s=20

Createaplant · 30/12/2023 20:24

@Jingleballs2 or the IDF are attacking the aid convoys: (Guardian yesterday)

UN humanitarian chief 'strongly condemns' attack on aid convoy

The UN’s top aid official has issued a strong condemnation after reports that Israeli troops opened fire on an aid convoy in the Gaza Strip on Thursday.

As we reported earlier, the head of the UN agency for Palestinian refugees (UNRWA) affairs in Gaza said Israeli soldiers fired at an aid convoy as it returned from northern Gaza along a route designated safe by the Israeli military.

Martin Griffiths, the UN emergency relief coordinator, said the convoy was fired upon despite being “clearly marked” and “its movements coordinated with the parties”.

“Attacks on humanitarian workers are unlawful,” he posted to social media, adding that “the conflict must stop”.

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Jingleballs2 · 30/12/2023 20:22

LeavesOnTrees · 30/12/2023 20:12

A simple solution is for the IDF to stop the bombardment and let aid in.

Aid is getting in.. hamas are taking it at gunpoint! Even gazans are saying this now: "There is lots of aid, it all goes underground" an elderly man was saying in a video I saw.

Cattiwampus · 30/12/2023 20:18

As I said almost two months ago, why would Israel stop?
What will make them, the ineffectual fussing of the UN and the serious tutting of the international community? They’re going to continue through Gaza and disease and starvation will finish what they started.
And everyone will be very sad.
Just like Yemen and Sudan and Syria and Haiti and all the misery in a dozen other countries undergoing humanitarian crises that ‘must not be allowed to happen’ yet somehow does.

stormy4319trevor · 30/12/2023 20:14

@LeavesOnTrees Yes, it's a no brainer. They can't keep killing innocent people on this scale.

Createaplant · 30/12/2023 20:13

LeavesOnTrees · 30/12/2023 20:12

A simple solution is for the IDF to stop the bombardment and let aid in.

This. That Israeli govt are not allowing anywhere near adequate aid in tells us all you need to know about what they want to achieve.

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LeavesOnTrees · 30/12/2023 20:12

A simple solution is for the IDF to stop the bombardment and let aid in.

Createaplant · 30/12/2023 20:10

@PurpleChrayne collective punishment is a choice and a war crime.

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