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Catastrophic hunger - 40% of Gaza's population at risk of famine

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Createaplant · 30/12/2023 17:13

Being reported by the Guardian:

40% of Gaza’s population is at risk of famine, the United Nations Relief and Works Agency said on Saturday.

“Every day is a struggle for survival, finding food and water,” the UN agency for Palestinian refugees added.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2023/dec/30/israel-gaza-war-live-hamas-palestinians-khan-younis-deaths-un-aid-us#:~:text=40%25%20of%20Gaza's%20population%20is,is%20grappling%20with%20catastrophic%20hunger.

Too sad and completely unnecessary. If only adequate aid, food and water was allowed in.

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Dulra · 28/11/2024 08:33

Tiredandteasytoday · 27/11/2024 20:29

Good grief it's awful

It is, and will just keep getting worse

Tiredandteasytoday · 27/11/2024 20:29

Good grief it's awful

Tiredandteasytoday · 27/11/2024 10:01

Dulra · 27/11/2024 08:01

The article that started this thread that stated 40% is almost a year old

That might explain it then. Are there more recent estimates.

Dulra · 27/11/2024 08:01

Tiredandteasytoday · 26/11/2024 23:22

Surprised its only 40% at risk of famine.

Now that a ceasefire has been agreed for Hezbollah and Israel hopefully Hamas and Israel ceasefire is next.

The article that started this thread that stated 40% is almost a year old

Tiredandteasytoday · 26/11/2024 23:22

Surprised its only 40% at risk of famine.

Now that a ceasefire has been agreed for Hezbollah and Israel hopefully Hamas and Israel ceasefire is next.

TakeMe2Insanity · 12/08/2024 20:43

Insanity to think when this began I was heavily pregnant, now my baby is almost 9 months old and babies in Gaza have been and gone…quite literally an accident or fortune of birth.

EasterIssland · 12/08/2024 20:08

https://www.reuters.com/graphics/ISRAEL-PALESTINIANS/GAZA-HUNGER

How children starve

TakeMe2Insanity · 11/07/2024 02:44

It is heart breaking and needless. I still cannot believe that this is human induced famine rather than through climate/drought.

Scirocco · 10/07/2024 21:51

EmberLight · 10/07/2024 20:37

I'm looking forward to the real story behind that pier coming out.

It was awfully convenient... And ineffective...

EmberLight · 10/07/2024 20:37

EasterIssland · 10/07/2024 20:30

@Efacsen i know we’ve spoken about the pier a lot but can’t remember which thread it was

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/jul/10/us-gaza-aid-pier-dismantled

I'm looking forward to the real story behind that pier coming out.

Kindatired · 09/07/2024 22:24

IDF targeting the police that trying to protect convoys , vigilantes ,terrorists trying to control anarchic armed thugs, cigarettes replacing money.
Floating piers floating off to sea, parachutes dropping parcels on top of people’s heads and killing them.
UNWRA should have been left to get on with its job

Dulra · 09/07/2024 21:30

EasterIssland · 09/07/2024 21:14

So depressing to think children are dying from starvation and people mere miles away have plenty of food. The world is a truly messed up place

EasterIssland · 09/07/2024 21:14

“UN experts declare famine has spread throughout Gaza strip”
https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/07/un-experts-declare-famine-has-spread-throughout-gaza-strip

EasterIssland · 26/06/2024 08:04

the report by the Integrated Food Security Phase Classification (IPC) says the available evidence does not indicate a famine is currently occurring in the north of the Palestinian territory.
The previous assessment in March had projected that one was imminent in the area.
The amount of food and other aid allowed into the north has increased since then, and nutrition, water, sanitation and health services have been stepped up, the report says.
But it warns that food availability in the south and central Gaza has been significantly reduced due to the closure of the Rafah border crossing and the displacement of more than one million people from the city of Rafah since early May, when Israel launched a ground operation there.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cv22g81djdyo

Palestinians wait to receive food at a charity kitchen in Khan Younis, in the southern Gaza Strip (30 May 2024)

Israel-Gaza war: 'High risk' of famine persists, UN-backed assessment says

But experts say evidence does not indicate a famine is occurring in the north after an aid increase.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cv22g81djdyo

PeasfullPerson · 26/06/2024 07:57

That’s really helpful, so to summarise.

Based on the information provided by those above about Richard Kemp then, it looks as though

he does not have the expertise to make a qualified comment about famine in Gaza

and

his perspective is most likely, biased towards being supportive of Israeli soldiers, given his position as head of the UK AWIS, and biased towards viewing Islam negatively, given the comment he made about one of our own politicians.

AhNowTed · 25/06/2024 20:12

Kindatired · 25/06/2024 19:53

@DuskyBlueDepartingLight
So I’ve just been reading up on Richard Kemp to see why he would deny that children are dying of malnutrition in Gaza.
So he doesn’t hold with women serving in forces, he thinks 16 is a good age to join the army, he served in Derry during the troubles- he was against the Bloody Sunday enquiry, he’s been called out for calling Catholic “taigs”, and the Jewish news were successfully sued after he wrote an article saying Baroness Warri was an apologist for Islamic state. That’s just his politics- there is nothing in his biography to indicate that he is any way trained to interpret famine related data .
One of the difficulties with declaring a famine is that it requires a certain data set
and secondly it tends to be declared too late to intervene. . A warning system has been developed by the leading humanitarian agencies- it’s called the Integrated Food Security Phase Classification (IPC). According to an editorial in the Lancet, one if the top 5 medical journals in the world, “Application of the scale in Gaza concluded that Gaza was above IPC Acute Food Insecurity Phase V (Catastrophe) thresholds.”
Todays NY times explains that using this system, a famine is identified in an area on the basis of three conditions:

  1. At least 20 percent of households face an extreme lack of food.
  2. At least 30 percent of children suffer from acute malnutrition.
  3. At least two adults or four children for every 10,000 people die each day from starvation or disease linked to malnutrition.
It’s not possible to do household surveys or arm circumference in a conflict zone.Who is going to map the area in a grid, and then train up health workers to systematically survey household and measure the babies arepa with paper bands? The Lancet article references Nobel prize winner Amarta Sen”Existing economic systems allow some people to be entitled to food, while others are allowed to starve.This is often the case in conflict zones, where those with means might be able to barter until food aid arrives or they are able to leave the conflict zone. As a result, the most vulnerable, such as pregnant and lactating women and their babies, suffer the greatest burden in terms of morbidity and mortality.”

Who, this guy?

He is the head of the UK Friends of the Association for the Wellbeing of Israel’s Soldiers (UK-AWIS), the UK branch of AWIS, an Israeli organisation managed by the Israel Defense Forces and headed by General Yoram Yair.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Kemp

Kindatired · 25/06/2024 19:53

@DuskyBlueDepartingLight
So I’ve just been reading up on Richard Kemp to see why he would deny that children are dying of malnutrition in Gaza.
So he doesn’t hold with women serving in forces, he thinks 16 is a good age to join the army, he served in Derry during the troubles- he was against the Bloody Sunday enquiry, he’s been called out for calling Catholic “taigs”, and the Jewish news were successfully sued after he wrote an article saying Baroness Warri was an apologist for Islamic state. That’s just his politics- there is nothing in his biography to indicate that he is any way trained to interpret famine related data .
One of the difficulties with declaring a famine is that it requires a certain data set
and secondly it tends to be declared too late to intervene. . A warning system has been developed by the leading humanitarian agencies- it’s called the Integrated Food Security Phase Classification (IPC). According to an editorial in the Lancet, one if the top 5 medical journals in the world, “Application of the scale in Gaza concluded that Gaza was above IPC Acute Food Insecurity Phase V (Catastrophe) thresholds.”
Todays NY times explains that using this system, a famine is identified in an area on the basis of three conditions:

  1. At least 20 percent of households face an extreme lack of food.
  2. At least 30 percent of children suffer from acute malnutrition.
  3. At least two adults or four children for every 10,000 people die each day from starvation or disease linked to malnutrition.
It’s not possible to do household surveys or arm circumference in a conflict zone.Who is going to map the area in a grid, and then train up health workers to systematically survey household and measure the babies arepa with paper bands? The Lancet article references Nobel prize winner Amarta Sen”Existing economic systems allow some people to be entitled to food, while others are allowed to starve.This is often the case in conflict zones, where those with means might be able to barter until food aid arrives or they are able to leave the conflict zone. As a result, the most vulnerable, such as pregnant and lactating women and their babies, suffer the greatest burden in terms of morbidity and mortality.”
A Palestinian girl protests against food shortages in Gaza City on 12 March, 2024.

What is famine, when is it declared and why are Gaza and Sudan at risk?

Conflict means millions of people in Gaza and Sudan are severely struggling to access food.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-68614782

Scirocco · 23/06/2024 12:47

Although for certain perspectives the calculations worked out not too badly. It was functional at a strategically useful time, took some of the pressure off accusations about the lack of aid, and can now very conveniently be unable to be used effectively with "Not our fault" reasons.

EmberLight · 23/06/2024 08:33

So even if the pier managed to get aid in, which it doesn't, it can't be distributed because aid agencies won't do that because of the risk of the IDF bombing their staff.

What an absolutely outrageous situation.

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