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setsu · 31/12/2023 01:17

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I was referring to the article in the OP. The one you enjoyed so much and called "the truth". Like this bit for example:

In the South Vietnamese capital Saigon, liberation fighters blasted a hole into a US embassy compound and stepped foot on their occupiers’ soil. This happened last Saturday as Palestinians tore down the fences that imprison them and trod on land seized by Israel.

(Bearing in mind the article was written on 9th October).

I mean it's in the title for Christ's sake. They're rejoicing over the attacks.

And I'm not sure why you think me calling Hamas and their supporters (like the author of the article you love so much) terrorist scum makes me a supporter of war crimes and genocide.

BigFrau · 31/12/2023 01:16

Is that you, Wolfie?

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Trulywonderful · 31/12/2023 01:15

Lad / dad you say tomato I say tomato

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Trulywonderful · 31/12/2023 01:13

25milesfromhome · 31/12/2023 01:05

@Trulywonderful Indeed. They most definitely do not approve of the Soulless Zionist Sociopaths. It seems someone has helped themselves to a bit too much of the Christmas sherry while their parents weren’t looking.

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copiley695 · 31/12/2023 01:07

ParentofanewPC · 31/12/2023 00:45

Copiley695
I condemn Hamas attack on the 890 civilians, if the ICC confirm rape I condemn that. The killing of the soldiers and Israeli spy's I not sure about, as my maternal great aunt's husband was a Dane and both his parents and relatives where in the resistance movement of WW2 and killed Nazi and Danes who worked with the Nazi's so I am conflicted on those.
I don't think Israel should have ever been formed in Palestine, but I am 76 years out of date, I want ( makes fuck all difference because what Israel and the USA/UK and European Union wants is what will happen) to go to the 1948 UN plan SO ISRAEL + PALESTINE + NEUTRAL JERUSALEM.

So will you condemn with your fellow Israeli fan girls the murder of Naheda Anton and her daughter Samr Anton, the illegal murder of over 200 Palestinian journalists and the numerous bombings of Mosques, churches, refugee camps, schools and hospitals. What about Israeli settlers and soldiers urinating on Palestinian corpses or abusing women and shooting children?

After all according to the USA, UK and EU all the above are illegal when Russia did them, so are they not illegal to Israel? Or am I just a thick working class lad from East Yorkshire without your private and university education

Comparing Israeli soldier's murdered in the massacre to Nazis while praising a pro-Hamas and pro-Massacre publication, nice.

I don't know who those "fellow Israeli fan girls" are or what makes you think I'm an "Israeli fan girl" so I don't know why it's my duty to comdemn them.

a thick working class lad

Yeah I thought so. A "lad" who joined mumsnet just to insult people.

25milesfromhome · 31/12/2023 01:05

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@Trulywonderful Indeed. They most definitely do not approve of the Soulless Zionist Sociopaths. It seems someone has helped themselves to a bit too much of the Christmas sherry while their parents weren’t looking.

DifficultBloodyWoman · 31/12/2023 01:01

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It is a compliment, seeing most are to the right of the present arseholes in government and either want all non whites sent home or all benefit receivers to be neutered. So to them anyone left of Genghis Khan is a communist.

I want to make sure that I have understood properly, so please clarify if I have misunderstood your position:

  • you do not believe non-whites in the UK should be ‘sent home’.
  • you do believe that Jews in Israel/Palestine should be ‘sent home’/sent away/in some way removed from that piece of land.

Have I understood that correctly?

Trulywonderful · 31/12/2023 00:52

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ParentofanewPC · 31/12/2023 00:45

Copiley695
I condemn Hamas attack on the 890 civilians, if the ICC confirm rape I condemn that. The killing of the soldiers and Israeli spy's I not sure about, as my maternal great aunt's husband was a Dane and both his parents and relatives where in the resistance movement of WW2 and killed Nazi and Danes who worked with the Nazi's so I am conflicted on those.
I don't think Israel should have ever been formed in Palestine, but I am 76 years out of date, I want ( makes fuck all difference because what Israel and the USA/UK and European Union wants is what will happen) to go to the 1948 UN plan SO ISRAEL + PALESTINE + NEUTRAL JERUSALEM.

So will you condemn with your fellow Israeli fan girls the murder of Naheda Anton and her daughter Samr Anton, the illegal murder of over 200 Palestinian journalists and the numerous bombings of Mosques, churches, refugee camps, schools and hospitals. What about Israeli settlers and soldiers urinating on Palestinian corpses or abusing women and shooting children?

After all according to the USA, UK and EU all the above are illegal when Russia did them, so are they not illegal to Israel? Or am I just a thick working class lad from East Yorkshire without your private and university education

25milesfromhome · 31/12/2023 00:41

I now no longer attend church or listen to mainsteam media and TV. the two greatest terrorist states of all time are the USA and UK, the most sanctioned country is Israel.

This is what radicalisation sounds like.

copiley695 · 31/12/2023 00:37

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These are all things that the Socialist Worker has said, the publication you like so much. I don't support genocide or war crimes (and frankly how fucking dare you accuse me of that) but they do.

plusjamais · 31/12/2023 00:34

@ParentofanewPC I can't support that and never will, my Jesus a Palestinian born in Bethlehem, always stood up for the weak and defenceless, especially children

It is a compliment, seeing most are to the right of the present arseholes in government and either want all non whites sent home or all benefit receivers to be neutered. So to them anyone left of Genghis Khan is a communist.

Sorry but you just sound like a Skawkbox mouthpiece parroting whatever crap you've seen on social media and therefore I can't take you seriously. Au revoir.

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Trulywonderful · 31/12/2023 00:34

Jesus a Palestinian born in Bethlehem

OK definitely a joke, which user has done a name change to give us a laugh 😂

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25milesfromhome · 31/12/2023 00:29

@ParentofanewPC I don’t think your Jesus, who was definitely a Jew and not a Palestinian, would be particularly enamoured of your goady antisemitism, and I thought lying was a sin.

ParentofanewPC · 31/12/2023 00:19

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copiley695 · 31/12/2023 00:12

ParentofanewPC · 30/12/2023 23:48

Thank you for posting that link to the article.
Makes a change for the truth about Israeli attacks to be published in UK media, unlike MSM which has deliberately not reported about IDF attacks on Bethlehem and Jenin in the run up to Christmas or the inspiring sermon by the Reverend Munther Isaac.

As both a Christian and left wing, closest to a Trotsky my in-laws claim I see that as complement, this slaughter has helped me realise many so called Christians and centre and left wing supporters are hypo critics of the highest order, they call out Ukrainian deaths, but cheer-lead the slaughter of over 20000 Gazans.

I now no longer attend church or listen to mainsteam media and TV. the two greatest terrorist states of all time are the USA and UK, the most sanctioned country is Israel.

Thank god for the likes of Al Jazeera, Morning Star and others for tell the truth which the UK media lies and sanitises daily

Do you also think that the October 7th massacre was a "daring attack" launched by the resistance? That they had every right to rape and kill all tho civilians? That the state of Israel should be dismantled by force if necessary?

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Trulywonderful · 31/12/2023 00:10

😂

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25milesfromhome · 31/12/2023 00:09

Thank god for the likes of Al Jazeera, Morning Star and others for tell the truth which the UK media lies and sanitises daily

I honestly can’t tell if this is a joke or not.

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Trulywonderful · 31/12/2023 00:07

Oh Aljazeera, the drip feeder of western and Jew hate into a whole generation of people. For every ten or so good articles they like to drip a nice drop of Jew properganda in there. Yet we wonder why there is so much Jew hate on the streets.

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plusjamais · 30/12/2023 23:57

ParentofanewPC · 30/12/2023 23:48

Thank you for posting that link to the article.
Makes a change for the truth about Israeli attacks to be published in UK media, unlike MSM which has deliberately not reported about IDF attacks on Bethlehem and Jenin in the run up to Christmas or the inspiring sermon by the Reverend Munther Isaac.

As both a Christian and left wing, closest to a Trotsky my in-laws claim I see that as complement, this slaughter has helped me realise many so called Christians and centre and left wing supporters are hypo critics of the highest order, they call out Ukrainian deaths, but cheer-lead the slaughter of over 20000 Gazans.

I now no longer attend church or listen to mainsteam media and TV. the two greatest terrorist states of all time are the USA and UK, the most sanctioned country is Israel.

Thank god for the likes of Al Jazeera, Morning Star and others for tell the truth which the UK media lies and sanitises daily

closest to a Trotsky my in-laws claim I see that as complement

Babes, it's not a compliment.

setsu · 30/12/2023 23:51

ParentofanewPC · 30/12/2023 23:48

Thank you for posting that link to the article.
Makes a change for the truth about Israeli attacks to be published in UK media, unlike MSM which has deliberately not reported about IDF attacks on Bethlehem and Jenin in the run up to Christmas or the inspiring sermon by the Reverend Munther Isaac.

As both a Christian and left wing, closest to a Trotsky my in-laws claim I see that as complement, this slaughter has helped me realise many so called Christians and centre and left wing supporters are hypo critics of the highest order, they call out Ukrainian deaths, but cheer-lead the slaughter of over 20000 Gazans.

I now no longer attend church or listen to mainsteam media and TV. the two greatest terrorist states of all time are the USA and UK, the most sanctioned country is Israel.

Thank god for the likes of Al Jazeera, Morning Star and others for tell the truth which the UK media lies and sanitises daily

The reason the mainstream media don't publish articles defending Hamas is because they are terrorist scum and so is anyone who supports them.

ParentofanewPC · 30/12/2023 23:48

Thank you for posting that link to the article.
Makes a change for the truth about Israeli attacks to be published in UK media, unlike MSM which has deliberately not reported about IDF attacks on Bethlehem and Jenin in the run up to Christmas or the inspiring sermon by the Reverend Munther Isaac.

As both a Christian and left wing, closest to a Trotsky my in-laws claim I see that as complement, this slaughter has helped me realise many so called Christians and centre and left wing supporters are hypo critics of the highest order, they call out Ukrainian deaths, but cheer-lead the slaughter of over 20000 Gazans.

I now no longer attend church or listen to mainsteam media and TV. the two greatest terrorist states of all time are the USA and UK, the most sanctioned country is Israel.

Thank god for the likes of Al Jazeera, Morning Star and others for tell the truth which the UK media lies and sanitises daily

plusjamais · 30/12/2023 20:41

They should really just have stuck to the facts in the article to give themselves more credibility.

See this is the thing - as soon as the they ramp up the rhetoric with a few side-helpings of "resistance group" it just makes a mockery of their reporting of factual points, which as you say, are completely valid.

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Trulywonderful · 30/12/2023 20:17

Now you see that last article I could accept as largely factual but one sided of course. It wouldn't bother me in that way.

However the language like "That sickening lie" just makes you remember this isn't about reporting the facts but telling the readers what they want to hear etc.

It is also towards the end an obviously a recruitment drive for the Sunday protests.

They should really just have stuck to the facts in the article to give themselves more credibility. Seriously no need to do more than that with this particular story.

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