I feel sick (serious trigger warning)

Thank you for that post, it is very telling isn't it and Israel have been dealing with this attitude towards it from way before the pogrom. Yet people wonder why it doesn't trust the UN or is bothered by how the world views it anymore.

Who knows what else they could be making up,

@Happygocookie I can't honestly believe you posted that. I am really shocked.

The post at 11am suggesting it is made up.

And I have spoken out against Islamophobia, and the actions of Israel. Not surprised you haven’t seen that either because apparently you only read what fits your preconceived bias.

Any incidents of iffy posts have been tackled straight away. Give your head a wobble and stop trying to deflect or whatabout from what the thread is about. If you don't like the topic read a different thread. It really is that simple

Genocide is what Hamas tried to perpetuate on October 7. Genocide is part of the Hamas founding charter. Israel did not start this war. Israel is not the side perpetuating countless war crimes. I can’t believe the darvo I read on Mumsnet in relation to this war.

who has denied it on this thread? and why do you never speak out about the blatant islamophobia in here Noblegiraffe. I could list endless horrific things committed by IDF WilmaWonka you wouldn’t care though.

Oh there have been many many denials of the rapes, even on MN, and a lot of justifications for those.

Very disgusting and the whataboutism is repulsive. They seem to have empathy for anyone or anything that doesn't suit their the narrative they follow. Especially if it doesn't suit their own agenda. I just don't get how people can live with themselves denying or whatabouting the torture and abuse of women and girls.

Absolute bullshit. Tell when Israeli civilians took part in atrocities that include hammering nails into genitals, videoing themselves spitting on the dead body of a naked, raped civilian woman?

A pathetic attempt to get this thread shut down crying racism and Islamophobia. Try harder dear.

South Africa are in bed with Hamas, who planned and carried out these atrocities and want their own citizens to be killed, so I imagine these ‘genocide’ charges will be treated with the contempt they deserve.

They literally have.

No one has denied rape on here, we just don’t all agree it justifies a genocide.

I was about to post that Brianna Wu on Twitter has posted screenshots of all the shittty responses she got to posting the NYT article (“Jew York Times” for example) and then I saw I didn’t need to because rape denialism is here on MN too.

Israel is getting away with a genocide and ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian people, because people are to frightened to speak out.

The reports are horrible, it is devastating to think about what the girls and women went through. The silence from the UN for 80+ days is disgusting though unsurprising considering multiple antisemites sit at the top echelons.

You literally have no idea what people are disgusted by and that you presume is a you problem not an us problem

Yes, no wonder @Fourfifty .

So much islamophobia and racism on this thread you should be ashamed of yourself. Whilst it is totally horrific what Hamas did, Israel has been doing all this to Palestinians for 74 years. South Africa have launched genocide charges against Israel.

Sorry but we all know this. You are just doing whataboutism now and that is not what this thread is about. It does not justice what happened to these women and girls as young as 13, plus some men. I literally have no idea why you would come on this thread and post that, it just shows a lack of empathy for anyone but Gazans

I see the disgusting rape and VAWG apologists have arrived.

Shame on them.

Oh god I know I needed to know what’s really happening but I wish I’d not read that full article. Horrific. Truly horrific.

I have no words.

There are no ‘ifs’ ‘buts’ or comparisons to this level of savagery. Hamas are Isis. Their values are incompatible with the modern world.

I was sickened by the videos of crowds of civilians cheering on the truck with that poor girl’s broken body. Israel have done awful things but I haven't seen crowds of thousands of Israelis cheering as the body of a raped and butchered innocent woman is paraded though the streets of their cities.

Absolute rubbish.

Who knows what else they could be making up

Do you have the faintest inkling of what you're doing when you say that about raped women, whether Israeli, children, old, absolutely any raped woman all over the world that has to face the fucking gaslighting and disbelief From A Fellow Woman!?

It's not often I let people get to me emotionally on MN but I'm telling you now to get fucked (no pun intended) and I do t care if this post gets deleted.

@MNHQ about time you stepped up against this rife and flagrant bigoted misogyny.

Been here over 20 years and I don't recognise you anymore, with the posts you're allowing to stand.