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braticus · 21/12/2023 17:22

SomeCatFromJapan · 21/12/2023 17:13

The IDF claim not to have been operational in the area. Who is telling the truth? Doubt we'll ever know.

Well isn't that convenient.

SomeCatFromJapan · 21/12/2023 17:13

The IDF claim not to have been operational in the area. Who is telling the truth? Doubt we'll ever know.

Efacsen · 21/12/2023 14:32

From yesterday Layla Morans twitter account

''Update. I finally have some GOOD NEWS to share. The tanks and the soldiers have moved off and can no longer be seen at the gates. They also can’t see the snipers anymore although they’re still worried. Food hasn’t been received so we will keep chasing.''

SomeCatFromJapan · 20/12/2023 21:54

The Times of Israel are reporting that the IDF has refuted the incident.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-refutes-claim-it-targeted-sole-catholic-church-in-gaza-after-2-women-said-killed/

queenofarles · 20/12/2023 15:11

Pleased to see these 2 women's photos here
May their souls rest in Peace,
No one is safe in Gaza .

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Silence1 · 20/12/2023 14:49

This is a quote from the Independent article. This is Israel in action.

"Describing the situation as “horrific”, she says aunt Najwa, in her 70s, was badly injured when an Israeli airstrike hit the Orthodox church in October. Najwa underwent surgery without anaesthesia in the city's al-Ahli Hospital, which had also just been hit. The hospital has since been raided by Israeli forces and is now shut.
Having faced a harrowing two-mile journey, Najwa is sheltering in the Catholic church, where she “exists in diapers, with no one to help her walk or move.”
“She is in deep pain, all she wants to do is die,” says Awwad. She mentions another uncle in his 80s who died 10 days ago at the Holy Family Church when his appendix burst and there was no hospital to take him to."

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Silence1 · 20/12/2023 14:46

Parkingt111 · 19/12/2023 16:32

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/no-christians-church-gaza-jerusalem-deputy-mayor-israeli-army-kills-two/#:~:text=Speaking%20on%20LBC's%20Nick%20Ferrari,instead%20of%20accepting%20a%20ceasefire.

I can't decide if some Israeli officials are completely ignorant or they just say this kind of rubbish knowing that some people will hear and believe it.
I did read an article on Israeli propaganda and that they do put out lies because by the time the lies are disproved, many will have already heard and believed their untruths.

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Efacsen · 20/12/2023 09:02

Pleased to see these 2 women's photos here

Nothing new on Layla Moran's twitter account since yesterday

Hope that the IDF made good their promise to provide food and water

Parkingt111 · 20/12/2023 08:10

Praying for patience and healing for their families and loved ones

Parkingt111 · 20/12/2023 08:10

The poor ladies. To be murdered in such a brutal way and then to not even be given dignity after their death

Layla Moran's family trapped in Catholic church and under attack from IDF
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braticus · 20/12/2023 07:13

@Efacsen I don't even think we're expected to believe it but it gives them and our government/media enough cover to talk around the issue/ give disingenuous arguments like usual.

Efacsen · 20/12/2023 06:48

@braticus seriously? I mean Hamas must be getting pretty desperate or super-wily to use an elderly lady tottering across a courtyard on a toilet break [no disrespect to the elderly] for a spotter

Or is this another party who is getting desperate/trying to be super wily trying to explain the utter absurdity of besieging a christian church as Hamas-adjacent

braticus · 20/12/2023 06:22

The Israeli military is claiming that they shot the two women because they were Hamas spotters 🙄

Toothyfruity · 19/12/2023 23:47

stormy4319trevor · 19/12/2023 14:46

@MissyB1 One of the messages of Christmas is to care for the hungry, the homeless, the suffering. It should be a time of peace, good will and giving. Let's hope politicians find a little Christmas spirit and bring about a ceasefire for all, and secure peace.

Israeli authorities are smart enough not to bomb the Holy Land at Christmas. Even mainstream media would take an interest in that. I expect a humanitarian pause for a short while for the sake of optics and then they'll resume the genocide once Christmas is over.

stormy4319trevor · 19/12/2023 19:00

Some spokespeople do seem quite confused, Layla Moran said she wasn't sure they know where the church is, as they were talking about a different place from where her family are.

stormy4319trevor · 19/12/2023 18:57

@Desertrose2023 So sorry to hear this. I will pray for them also.

Coyoacan · 19/12/2023 18:47

This level of barbarism is unbearable. That Deputy Mayor thinks it is ok to do this to people as long as you pretend you aren't and they believe they can convince everyone that the Christians were killed by Muslims, because Muslims are just so randomly violent like that.

Desertrose2023 · 19/12/2023 16:39

Parkingt111 · 19/12/2023 16:33

@Desertrose2023 that sounds terrible. They are definitely in my prayers

Thank you @Parkingt111
I’m sure she will appreciate that a lot

Parkingt111 · 19/12/2023 16:35

Does she really think we are all idiots? I have seen alot of extremely eye brow raising questionable things said by Israeli officials but this one is really taking the biscuit so to speak

Parkingt111 · 19/12/2023 16:33

@Desertrose2023 that sounds terrible. They are definitely in my prayers

Parkingt111 · 19/12/2023 16:32

Well according to the Deputy Mayor of Jerusalem we have all just been worrying for no reason as there are apparently no churches or Christians in Gaza
So thats' the end of that. Nothing further to be said

Desertrose2023 · 19/12/2023 16:11

I’ve just checked in with a friend of mine who has family in Gaza. Her family are in the church. This is (verbatim) what she’s told me:

they’re still alive but scared to even look out of the windows snipers are everywhere and they are bombing everywhere as well
They’re still trapped in the church
Anyway it is not safe to leave
And also their homes are demolished
So basically no place to go
They went to check on their homes during the truce
But everything is gone
Even my grandparents house which was built in the 1930s
Is gone they even stole their jewelry laptops, …etc
Nothing is left
the worst part is that no journalists can reach where they are.

Im devastated for her. She’s asked me to keep them and Gaza in my prayers. There’s literally nothing else we can do for them except pray. I think this has pushed me over the edge tonight.

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