Has anyone changed their mind from what they have read on here?

No, it's boring when posters are shouting "antisemitism!" at anyone and everyone for any criticism of the government and/or showing sympathy to the Palestinian plight.
There is no universally decided definition of antisemitism, but IMO criticising a government isn't it. I have reported posts that I felt were antisemitic, and if I'd lived close to London I definitely would have attended the march against AS. I don't feel I'm antisemitic at all, but I was told my posts were "dripping with antisemitism" in the early days. By a poster who said Palestinian babies were Hamas 🤔

You found it boring that anti-Semitism has been called out?
Trouble is, many posters do not seem to be aware of what anti-Semitism is.
You may not know either.

25miles said she was getting embarrassed, I said “I was sorry she was embarrassed”.

@feralunderclass
Agree

She didn't mean that at all.

Okay, thanks for explaining.

Could you say a bit more about this to expand on what you mean?
There have been threads where there's antisemitic comments, which can and should rightfully be challenged and deleted.

There's also been threads, particularly earlier on in the conflict, where people are discussing their opinion on the actions of the IDF, Israel as a state and the conflict in general where people have been quick to try and close down the discussion by claiming the discussion is antisemitic.

My concern is that when there are deeply unpleasant groups who fuel highly hateful ideas about Jewish people (and we've all seen them with their conspiracies about Jewish people ruling the world, nobody is allowed to criticise them and so on), that when in defence of Israel and the IDF some people try to shut down the debate they're providing ammunition to people with hateful agendas.

It reminds me of some of the recent discussions about immigration, where certain quarters of the left would shout "racist" or "bigot" when people discussed immigration and had different points of view. I think the left shot itself in the foot there because they handed the right wing and genuinely racist groups ammunition to say "look at who you can't criticise, they're the ones who are in power, you can't even say anything about immigration without being called racist". It played out again with Brexit, lots of throwing around"bigot", "racist" and what happened? The conservatives swung to the right, the overton window on immigration has moved, Nigel Farage still has a platform, and people who may previously been open to a moderate view (albeit one I disagree with) have been easily swung and become more extreme in their views.

My concern is something similar could happen with the way some people discuss this conflict and I don't think it's positive for society.

I am not sure about the term 'islamophobic' and wonder how Muslims feel about it. It suggests a phobia or fear of Muslims, but what I see expressed is more like hatred. I'm more comfortable with anti-Muslim, but maybe I am wrong? Also, prejudice towards Muslims is not really the driving factor in discrimination against Palestinians. we can see that Christians are suffering and being killed in Gaza and the West Bank too. Their oppression is more to do with them being Palestinian than their religion, it seems.

What an extraordinary assertion that calling out anti-Semitism and reporting it will lead to more of it.

I still think that the actions of the group above is likely to fuel actual antisemitism (by the sort of groups who will try to push the antisemitic can't say anything about the Jews, Jews control the world narrative) and I'm still troubled by the almost inevitable rise in islamophobia and antisemitism that's going to ripple out.

Could you say a bit more about this to expand on what you mean?

Edited to add: by "actions of the group above" do you mean the CST?

On the central issue I haven't changed my mind.

I still think that innocent civilians, especially women and children, are yet again being harmed by men on ego trips and their love of war and fighting and need to make a name for themselves.

I still think that the presentation of the current war as something that started with the horrific Hamas attack a few months ago is a deliberately disingenuous attempt to ignore the endless push to grab land and minimise settled violence.

I'm incredibly troubled that any concerns for Palestinian people and expressions of support for a ceasefire are branded as being pro Hamas.

I'm also troubled that from what I've seen on here there's some posters who will meet any criticism of the IDF with "but what about Hamas" as if they can't comprehend that for people who don't have an ideological loyalty to a "side" are capable of viewing atrocious acts of violence against civilians to be atrocious regardless of the side.

I still have deep concerns that some people who are very pro-IDF try to shut down discussions by shouting anti-Semitism and drawing criteria of anti-Semitism that is designed to stifle discussion.

I still think that the actions of the group above is likely to fuel actual antisemitism (by the sort of groups who will try to push the antisemitic can't say anything about the Jews, Jews control the world narrative) and I'm still troubled by the almost inevitable rise in islamophobia and antisemitism that's going to ripple out.

Edit to add: It's been interesting to read different perspectives on here, but for a while I stepped out the topic because it felt like most discussions turned into whataboutery and people defending their "side".

I would simply class it as inaccurate, since the Gazans did not functionally vote for Hamas.
Israel did vote for their current government who control the IDF.

This constant relabelling of things to prevent people from being allowed to criticise them is wearing very thin. I think of Shakespeare’s line: “A rose by any other name”. Or in this case, “mass murderers by any other name”

Well I hope you included the posts by Jewish posters, who labelled other Jews as "crackpots", "nutters" and "lunatics" simply because they didn't agree with them. And the worst, was the poster who said Jews in UK can be identified by their "Jewish hair colour". I honestly thought that was an antisemite trying to poke the bear, but apparently not.

I genuinely don't understand this? Of course a country should be conflated with its military actions, because it's acting according to the instructions of its government. Or did you mean Israelis shouldn't be conflated with the military action?

I have personally just sent links containing some overt anti-Semitic posts to the CST whom will investigate.

But the Israeli citizens vote consistently for Netanyahu, the IDF is the state owned and operated armed force that most Israelis have been members of or will become members of. Yes it is Israel at fault. If they didn’t want this, they could rise up and stop it, March, strike, lobby their representatives, we don’t see that much of this do we. According to polls, most Israelis want to carry on and don’t want a ceasefire.

In Gaza there haven’t been elections for years, most of its citizens are under the voting age anyway so I don’t thinks it’s a fair appraisal to say the Gazans voted for Hamas.

Yes, I'm also going to start taking screenshots of the more blatantly anti-semitic posts and forwarding them to these people. Sadly, for whatever reason, the moderating on this topic is not working. Unfortunately, the lack of moderating has resulted in some posters getting increasingly offensive- I've been reporting posts for weeks now, often nothing happens so I feel I have no choice but to report elsewhere.

Thanks for the laugh 😂💐😊

Yes, I have just tried to amend but too late... read some 🙄🤣

I have some well thought out and written posts that do stand out though.

@Christmascountdownpanic
I assume you meant you have read some well thought out posts and you're not just blowing your own trumpet 😀

The jury is still out whether Israel is an occupying state - it's not yet a fact.
https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/menasource/gaza-israel-occupied-international-law/

I think many of the posts on the hundreds of threads are similar and screeching and will never change opinions. Some are troll like some goad, many use inflammatory language and some aren't worth reading. It turns people off the subject.

I have some well thought out and written posts that do stand out though.

Yeah, I really don't understand this. Palestinians don't even have a country never mind a democratically elected government and a military. Comparing Israel with the territories it is occupying is comparing apples and oranges, they aren't even close to the same thing. Maybe floodlight can explain what she thinks the similarities between the IDF and a terrorist organisation are?