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Hamas planned attacks on Jewish people in Europe

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Shhhhivegotasecret · 14/12/2023 22:35

Have seen in the news - I suspect it’s the tip of the iceberg and absolutely terrifying for Jewish people everywhere. Hamas need to be stopped, hopefully this helps to reinforce that they are a terrorist group and not some romantic notion about being ‘freedom fighters’

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ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 15/12/2023 17:32

So while it's scary and sad that Jews around the world feel threatened, my full sympathy is for the Palestinians who are ACTUALLY being murdered while the world watches

If I didn't know better I might have thought that no Jews were actually murdered. At least that's how your post makes it look.

Littlemoreconcentation · 15/12/2023 17:29

Nervousandexcitedd · 15/12/2023 17:20

As clever as the comments are that say 'Palestinians voted Hamas in so what did they expect would happen'. Do you know how harrowing it is reading comments like that from the average person? They WERE voted in. Before most living (and now dead) Palestinians were even born. So by that logic, considering all Jews have a right to Israeli citizenship, they're responsible for that governments actions and must reap what they sow. See how that doesn't make sense?

Unlike all the 'non-racist' Pro-Israel posters on this website, I actually DON'T believe all Jews are responsible and should in any way be hurt. To even think that an innocent person is killed because of the actions of others is mortifying. Which is why it pisses me right off when I see such blatant hypocrisy in the care/ lack of care of people with different skin tones, different faiths and different ethnicities. So while it's scary and sad that Jews around the world feel threatened, my full sympathy is for the Palestinians who are ACTUALLY being murdered while the world watches. But go ahead, be scared in your warm homes and safe countries, surrounded by all your living loved ones. And have no regard for the Palestinians who have no homes and are living in the cold in leaking fragile tents with no food, no water, no medication, no limbs, no family and no hope.

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Nervousandexcitedd · 15/12/2023 17:20

Humdingerydoo · 15/12/2023 16:29

I'm a Jew who doesn't have a right to vote in Israel. Why should I be murdered? Please explain what you mean. Unless you were just trying to be clever? Because if so, let's face it, you failed spectacularly at that.

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As clever as the comments are that say 'Palestinians voted Hamas in so what did they expect would happen'. Do you know how harrowing it is reading comments like that from the average person? They WERE voted in. Before most living (and now dead) Palestinians were even born. So by that logic, considering all Jews have a right to Israeli citizenship, they're responsible for that governments actions and must reap what they sow. See how that doesn't make sense?

Unlike all the 'non-racist' Pro-Israel posters on this website, I actually DON'T believe all Jews are responsible and should in any way be hurt. To even think that an innocent person is killed because of the actions of others is mortifying. Which is why it pisses me right off when I see such blatant hypocrisy in the care/ lack of care of people with different skin tones, different faiths and different ethnicities. So while it's scary and sad that Jews around the world feel threatened, my full sympathy is for the Palestinians who are ACTUALLY being murdered while the world watches. But go ahead, be scared in your warm homes and safe countries, surrounded by all your living loved ones. And have no regard for the Palestinians who have no homes and are living in the cold in leaking fragile tents with no food, no water, no medication, no limbs, no family and no hope.

Littlemoreconcentation · 15/12/2023 17:20

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Totallymessed · 15/12/2023 16:59

Toothyfruity · 15/12/2023 16:16

Damned if we sympathise with what's happened and damned if we don't.

I'm out.

How strange that you find it impossible to be on a thread about terrorist threats to Jews in Europe. Normally you're very happy to spend hour after hour blaming Israel for anything and everything that happens. I guess Hamas planning terrorist attacks in Europe is difficult to frame as them just being victims, brave freedom fighters and, of course, the classic "anti-zionist not anti-semitic!".

No doubt you'll be back shortly.

BigFrau · 15/12/2023 16:47

Reluctant as I am to see this thread derailed any further.... what do you mean by "hiding behind a regular poster"?

Decibel1000 · 15/12/2023 16:45

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Babyboomtastic · 15/12/2023 16:39

CloudyAgain · 15/12/2023 16:34

I'm Jewish and i have never been to Israel. i think Netanyahu is deranged.

But as always all Jews are apparently responsible for Israel. Like all British are responsible for Brexit. or all Chinese are responsible for Covid.

Only the fucking thick and stupid and racist and anti semitic believe this. But they walk among us and shout the loudest.

I think it's one step further with Brexit.

Saying all British are responsible for Brexit is comparable to all Israelis are responsible for the Israeli government's actions.

Saying all Jews are responsible for Israeli government's actions is more akin to all English speakers being responsible for Brexit.

Even stupider.

And I say this as someone who is very much in the ceasefire & Israeli government is committing a genocide 'camp'.

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Shhhhivegotasecret · 15/12/2023 16:36

I wonder who really thinks like the now deleted poster - I wonder if that person shares their venomous views in real life or hides behind a keyboard. I sincerely hope I don’t know or meet them

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CloudyAgain · 15/12/2023 16:34

I'm Jewish and i have never been to Israel. i think Netanyahu is deranged.

But as always all Jews are apparently responsible for Israel. Like all British are responsible for Brexit. or all Chinese are responsible for Covid.

Only the fucking thick and stupid and racist and anti semitic believe this. But they walk among us and shout the loudest.

25milesfromhome · 15/12/2023 16:33

the fact that you and numerous others on this thread can only seem to resort to cheap insults and smears says more about you really than it does about me.

**I’ve got schmeeeeeears, they’re multiplying.

Babyboomtastic · 15/12/2023 16:33

PurpleChrayne · 15/12/2023 14:32

It will never cease to amaze me how real and true threats to Jews, both in Israel and the diaspora, are denied and played down.

Hamas literally WROTE in their charter that they want to exterminate all Jews.

Now it's proven they are trying to launch attacks on Jews in the west.

And yet still people deny it.

Hamas literally WROTE in their charter that they want to exterminate all Jews.

Where? Can you please provide the relevant quote because I've checked it this claim and it's false.

Let's stick to the actual bad things Hamas do rather than making up stuff.

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Shhhhivegotasecret · 15/12/2023 16:30

I mean I did go to Israel once 30 years ago…

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Desertrose2023 · 15/12/2023 16:30

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the fact that you and numerous others on this thread can only seem to resort to cheap insults and smears says more about you really than it does about me. you can call me what you like. I know who I am so it honestly doesn’t bother me. If you want to have a respectful discussion and debate great. If you want to just call names and resort to gutter responses then thats a pity.

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Shhhhivegotasecret · 15/12/2023 16:29

ace249 · 15/12/2023 16:28

insane was one of the more polite words which came to mind.

I know but I am bewildered.

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Humdingerydoo · 15/12/2023 16:29

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I'm a Jew who doesn't have a right to vote in Israel. Why should I be murdered? Please explain what you mean. Unless you were just trying to be clever? Because if so, let's face it, you failed spectacularly at that.

ace249 · 15/12/2023 16:28

insane was one of the more polite words which came to mind.

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Shhhhivegotasecret · 15/12/2023 16:28

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This is literally insane. ALL Jews?? Seriously… do you believe that?

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Nervousandexcitedd · 15/12/2023 16:26

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25milesfromhome · 15/12/2023 16:17

Good, off you go, bye.

Toothyfruity · 15/12/2023 16:16

Damned if we sympathise with what's happened and damned if we don't.

I'm out.

Humdingerydoo · 15/12/2023 16:16

Desertrose2023 · 15/12/2023 16:06

I don't have enough information on the alleged plot or those arrested. More information as the case develops will shape my opinion. Hamas define themselves - per their own charter - as nationalists whose fight is with Israel. What I believe is that the threat posed specifically by Hamas outside of Israel is being significantly inflated to fit the false narrative Israel is pushing that their actions in Gaza are also to defend the West, rather than land grab and ethnically cleanse.

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I of course realise you'll ignore this post as you've ignored my other ones, so I'm posting this for the benefit of others.

I hope you realise what you believe is not based even remotely in fact and is purely based in how much you hate Israel. You hate Israel so much you'd rather put your faith in bonafide terrorists, and you seem ok with that. You trust Hamas more than your trust Germany. Again, you seem ok with that. How many murdered Jews will it take for you to accept that Hamas aren't to be trusted and that they're terrorists who will kill anyone, anywhere who doesn't agree with them or who is Jewish.

Luckily, your extreme views are in the minority in the world. So let's just be grateful for that.