Hamas planned attacks on Jewish people in Europe

Sorry, I obviously won't click on a link that is clearly going to be biased. Anything from anywhere more neutral?

Yes, I have read the thread. Thanks for asking!

I feel like you served a few of my questions. That's to be expected though.

I mean literally everyone calls them the Occupied Territories, including the US.

I think it's probably only Israel and some pro-Israeli posters on Mumsnet who don't.

Yes, it doesn’t always work on here, Wibble! I was just trotting out what I call ‘Hamas Bingo’- oh they are resistance fighter, poor them, bad Israel, ad nauseum. It gets tiring.

Do you have problems with reading comprehension?

I asked if there is information on this happening before because I'm interested to know if it's a first, or if they've done this before.

By "they" do you mean Hamas? Or the 5.6 billion people who practice Islam?

By "they" do you mean Hamas? Or the 5.6 billion people who practice Islam?

@Humdingerydoo Here's one from this year that includes toddlers Israeli forces use five Palestinian children as human shields | Defense for Children Palestine (dci-palestine.org) Google it. You'll find more.

The relevance to it to the topic at hand is that several posters brought it up. Have you even read the thread?

Of course terrorism is a bad thing. I forgot that when dealing with people like you I had to say that at the start of every single post. In most places it goes without saying that I think terrorism is bad.

@ChalkWitch Ah, yes, sarcasm didn't translate in this instance! Thank you for the clarification!

@WibbleWobbleFlop I think you misinterpreted me-I was being sarcastic. Hamas have no valid reason for the the 7th. None. I do not agree that they have a valid argument at all.

Your use of 'Occupied Territories' shows exactly where your sympathy lies.

So as long as we don't hear about other attacks or they keep attacking in Isreal that's 'ok'.?...

Indeed. Almost as if the non Palestinian Hamas terrorists arrested in Europe haven’t been radicalised by even Israel oppressing them, and they’re just Jew hating maniacs

Any reliable sources for IDF using children as human shields? And also, what's the relevance of that to the topic at hand? Surely even you can agree that Hamas spreading their hatred worldwide is an awful thing to be happening? And that it indicates it is not just Israel they're after, it's Jews in general? And if you disagree with that, then please explain why.

I don't understand why the world leaders have not said ENOUGH, we are sending in a coalition of troops to flush out Hamas and where possible, bring them to trial in The Hague. Then send in a coalition of peacekeepers to manage the transition of whatever comes next for Israel, and Palestine, preferably a 2-state solution.

Surely this is better than WW3, a religious war that this has the potential to kick off.

@Toothyfruity I haven't seen any claims that the IDF had used human shields. If they have, then certainly I condemn it as well.

@ChalkWitch Israel have been defending themselves against attacks since it's formation in 1948. Before that, vast numbers of it's citizens from all over Europe and the Middle East were oppressed and targeted for centuries (actually, millennia). Their land was initially stolen, as they were originally from the land that is now recognized as Israel. That doesn't mean Palestinians haven't been oppressed (certainly moreso recently). Both sides have valid arguments.

And yet, they terrify the world with their peace

Maybe not referred to as fluffy, but certainly excused for their actions because they were oppressed, it’s a resistance movement, their land was stolen, etc., etc.

Those who don't approve of the use of children as human shields presumably also condemn the IDF for using them?

Does anyone have information on attacks carried out outside of Israel and the Occupied Territories by Hamas? I'd be interested in learning the history of this.

They are not fluffy freedom fighters,

You don’t see them referred to as “fluffy” much tbf.

It's so sad that Hamas and other terrorist groups like it represent Islam, which is a truly beautiful and peaceful religion.

What God would actually welcome men who rape, torture, hide behind women and children. Stand by whilst the women and children are hurt. Hide like rats in tunnels.

There is no heaven for them (or whatever they call it, or virgins waiting for their cowardly attention). Just nothing. Sad despicable pathetic scum.

Good point. Instead of hiding behind children like the cowards they are with leaders running off to live rich lives in others countries on the aid package.

They are cowardly scum not men.

The use of children and babies as human shields is disgusting. If they actually believed that their God would save and praise them for their actions, they would stand up and fight instead of hiding like cowards and targeting civilians.

Yes, I agree, I'm not in the uk but I've been amazed at what people around me refuse to see.

Yes to op, pp and this