Hamas planned attacks on Jewish people in Europe

So you think only Israel supporters think terrorism against Jews is a big problem? 😳 You don't think it's possible to be eg Palestinian or Iranian and anti-terrorism? Maybe think before you type to avoid sounding ridiculous.

Honestly. Can't you see? If people are butchered in the numbers that have happened in Gaza, with such cruelty, and continuing, I think it is inevitable that it would lead to terrorism abroad. I don't like it and I condemn it but I was on here predicting it a month ago. How obvious does it have to be?

I just cannot with this level of hyperbole.

And still the derailers keep on coming.
Are other threads all busy today, or what?

The moral highground from supporters of those who intend to steal an entire country, after decimating its citizens.

It will never cease to amaze me how real and true threats to Jews, both in Israel and the diaspora, are denied and played down.

Hamas literally WROTE in their charter that they want to exterminate all Jews.

Now it's proven they are trying to launch attacks on Jews in the west.

And yet still people deny it.

Ah, Mumsnet's resident Hamas excusers have descended en masse. Expect constant whataboutery and extreme claims from suspicious sources. They're best just ignored IMO, trying to have an honest discussion with them is impossible, that is not how they operate.

Those who say there is no threat are these people wrong?

Danish Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen said the threat was "as serious as it gets".

Danish Justice Minister Peter Hummelgaard said the alleged plot "tragically confirms that Danish Jews are under threat".

My comment about islam being a religion of peace so posters shouldn't tarnish the whole religion based on certain groups is a violation on mumsnet. But posters making and admitting being sarcastic about saying the religion promotes peace is still up.

just shocked at the ignorance in this post.
I mean, I shouldn't be really

Except that whats she’s saying is true. The Israeli government were happy enough with Hamas when they thought they were useful/harmless.

As a rule of thumb, if you’re making out that you care about human rights it undermines your argument if you use hate speech to do it.

Also, an actual example of a post that is actually not relevant to the topic of the thread.

1. I'm not denying that some/many/most of those in Hamas probably want to kill all Jews. Some have said this publicly. Some have been criticised by others in Hamas for doing so as it's against their charter

2. some of those links are a tad biased. To put it mildly. Less partisan links would be better.

3. my post wasn't about what individual members of Hamas say or their leadership. It was in response to the specific assertion that "Thier funding charter explicitly states..." I am correct about this and to say otherwise either means you haven't bothered to read it yourself or are deliberately choosing to spread lies.

4. I'm not defending Hamas. I'm correcting misinformation. I am not a fan of Harold Shipman, but if someone said that he'd killed 100,000 people I'd state that they were wrong. I can't stand the conservative party, but if someone said that in their founding charter they'd explicitly said that they believe poor people should die, I'd ask to see the relevant clause before believing it.

Truth is more important than defending a 'side'.

Hamas have done enough terrible things without inventing stuff. Let's try to stick to truth.

I was responding to comments on this thread. If you don't want discussion maybe a discussion board isn't for you?

What I find frightening with the intimidation marches is the number of far left useful idiots supporting them. Especially the Queers for Palestine, do they not understand that they would be thrown off rooftops in most Muslim countries?

I can't imagine where you got that figure from. The entire population of the world is only 8.1 billion people. There are about 1.8 billion that practice Islam.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2017/08/09/muslims-and-islam-key-findings-in-the-u-s-and-around-the-world/

But conflating Hamas with ISIS and viewing Hamas as a credible threat to Jews outside of Israel are not the same thing.

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if what you’re actually saying is that there is no room for opposing views on the thread and all you want is an echo chamber then that’s different.

Ah, the old "echo chamber" accusation
No, no one wants an echo chamber, just the chance to discuss the topic of the thread without blatant derailment. Opposing views are fine if they remain on topic.

Why isn’t this a threat though?

They added that one of the four, named as Abdelhamid Al A, had been tasked by Hamas leaders in Lebanon with locating a "depot with weapons in Europe, which the organisation had covertly set up there in the past".

"The weapons were due to be taken to Berlin and kept in a state of readiness in view of potential terrorist attacks against Jewish institutions in Europe."

Ch Insp Flemming Drejer of the Danish police said the three suspects arrested in Denmark as part of its own investigation would be charged with terror offences.

Danish Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen said the threat was "as serious as it gets".

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Danish Justice Minister Peter Hummelgaard said the alleged plot "tragically confirms that Danish Jews are under threat".

The thread is to discuss the alleged threat posed by Hamas to Jews in Europe. I have provided an opinion on that topic.

if what you’re actually saying is that there is no room for opposing views on the thread and all you want is an echo chamber then that’s different.

@Toothyfruity As other mentioned, this is not relevant to the topic discussed in this thread. If you have nothing valuable to add please leave and create your own thread to spread propaganda.

I would suggest that you refrain from personally insulting people. It’s unnecessary and reflects badly on you.

I am aware arrests have been made and that the information released by the authorities is limited. The narrative that suddenly Hamas presents a threat to Jews globally is a highly convenient one for an Israeli government that is currently facing mounting pressure to stop its genocide. It also does not align with Hamas’s own stated ideology as set out in its 2017 charter. Until further information is available I do not accept that these arrests present enough evidence to conflate Hamas with ISIS as others are doing.

the history of Netanyahu’s support of Hamas is also public. Google it.