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EasterIssland · 09/12/2023 22:26

Israel is at war with Gaza. However , this has dragged other countries in the area as well.
weve heard about the problems in West Bank (there is a thread) but also Lebanon where civilians have been killed and journalists have been targeted and killed

they’ve also attacked several airports in Siria.

ive read in the past there was a conflict as well with Yemen and read now this” Yemen's Houthis warn they will target all ships headed to Israel”

it doesn’t sound that post this war living in Israel is going to be safer than before

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/yemens-houthis-say-they-will-target-ships-red-sea-en-route-israel-2023-12-09/

Houthi military helicopter flies over the Galaxy Leader cargo ship in the Red Sea in this photo released November 20, 2023. Houthi Military Media/Handout via REUTERS/File Photo

Yemen's Houthis warn they will target all ships headed to Israel

Yemen's Houthi movement said on Saturday they would target all ships heading to Israel, regardless of their nationality, and warned all international shipping companies against dealing with Israeli ports.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/yemens-houthis-say-they-will-target-ships-red-sea-en-route-israel-2023-12-09/

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stomachameleon · 02/01/2024 19:33

@Parkingt111 be interesting if it's not Israel. I wonder who else would want a leader of hamas's military wing dead? Would be a good cover?

stomachameleon · 02/01/2024 19:32

Netanyahu made it clear the hierarchy of Hamas were dead men waking pre 7/10 so I don't know why this is a shock.

Hamas released the statement about the hostages before this man was killed I believe. It was certainly posted on other threads.

It doesn't say in that Twitter post that America weren't informed. Just said it was delayed.

Mossad went after those guilty of war crimes after ww2 for years. It has always been the objectives to get these men. I think Lebanon keeping Hezbollah in check would help them not getting dragged into anything.

Parkingt111 · 02/01/2024 19:31

But isn't Israel saying it wasn't them that did it? Although the Washington Post is reporting that US officials believe Israel is responsible for it.

EasterIssland · 02/01/2024 19:16

Israel has bombed today and killed an important member of Hamas in Lebanon.

the side effects so far of this :
hamas will not negotiate for the hostages for a while
https://twitter.com/WarMonitors/status/1742249598075437164
blinken was meant to visit Israel and this has been cancelled as us hasn’t been informed about this strike
https://twitter.com/WarMonitors/status/1742259152187969891

Lebanon's Prime Minister Najib Mikati has called the explosion in the capital Beirut "a crime" which "aims to drag Lebanon into a new phase of confrontation with Israel".
Mikati's statement adds that "many" were injured and killed in the explosion.

https://twitter.com/WarMonitors/status/1742259152187969891

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Parkingt111 · 31/12/2023 19:19

Deterrent*

Parkingt111 · 31/12/2023 19:13

Let's just pray and hope that the joint statement is enough as a detterant. Nobody wants to see this escalation

BelleHathor · 31/12/2023 19:02

Sorry @Thereissomelight I heard it on a twitter space about the region from some journalists on the ground. Looks like the papers are catching up.

SomeCatFromJapan · 31/12/2023 18:40

The Times is reporting it, but it's paywalled.

"UK preparing for attacks on Houthi rebels with US"

Thereissomelight · 31/12/2023 18:38

I can’t see anything on that yet @BelleHathor
Let’s hope this doesn’t escalate. And the power crazed psychopaths don’t drag us all down a very dark road.

BelleHathor · 31/12/2023 17:49

Well the UK, US and France may announce joint strikes against Yemen. It has just escalated, David Cameron has just spoken to Iran. The fools who want war with Iran may have just got their wish. Poor world.

BelleHathor · 29/12/2023 19:21

Silence1 · 29/12/2023 18:03

Tensions rising more as Israel kills Iranian General
“We will never keep silent in the face of martyrdom of the sons of this nation,” Salami said. “Our revenge will be tough as always, but a revenge that could compensate for the martyrdom of Seyed Razi is nothing but the removal of Israel from the face of existence.”

Iran holds funeral for a general who was killed by an alleged Israeli airstrike in Syria | AP News

Yeah Iran released this video message. The fact that Israel chose to extra judicially/illegally kill an Iranian General on Syrian territory is extremely reckless.

Iran Releases Netanyahu's 'Assassination' Clip? What's The Truth Behind This Shocking Video?

The Iranian military released an animated video depicting the assassination of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. The controversial video depicted Ne...

https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZW1H5wKgFrs

Silence1 · 29/12/2023 18:03

Tensions rising more as Israel kills Iranian General
“We will never keep silent in the face of martyrdom of the sons of this nation,” Salami said. “Our revenge will be tough as always, but a revenge that could compensate for the martyrdom of Seyed Razi is nothing but the removal of Israel from the face of existence.”

Iran holds funeral for a general who was killed by an alleged Israeli airstrike in Syria | AP News

An Iranian mourner holds up a poster of Seyed Razi Mousavi, a high ranking Iranian general of the paramilitary Revolutionary Guard, who was killed in an alleged Israeli airstrike in Syria on Monday, during his funeral ceremony in Tehran, Iran, Thursday...

Iran holds funeral for a general who was killed by an alleged Israeli airstrike in Syria

Iran has held a funeral for a high-ranking general of the paramilitary Revolutionary Guard who was killed by an alleged Israeli airstrike in Syria.

https://apnews.com/article/iran-israel-syria-killed-general-avenge-63573abae4292de42c09958a80df664d

Silence1 · 28/12/2023 22:35

"The reluctance of some U.S. allies to link themselves to the effort partly reflects the fissures created by the conflict in Gaza, which has seen Biden maintain firm support for Israel even as international criticism rises over its offensive, which Gaza's health ministry says has killed more than 21,000 Palestinians.
"European governments are very worried that part of their potential electorate will turn against them," said David Hernandez, a professor of international relations at the Complutense University of Madrid, noting that the European public is increasingly critical of Israel and wary of being drawn into a conflict

US allies reluctant on Red Sea task force | Reuters

Parkingt111 · 25/12/2023 22:58

stomachamaleon · 25/12/2023 22:55

@SomeCatFromJapan that's the one I am talking about. Has been offered in the last couple of days I believe.

www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/hamas-islamic-jihad-reject-giving-up-power-return-permanent-ceasefire-egyptian-2023-12-25/

As much as I want Hamas gone and I'm inclined to believe they don't want to give up their power, sky news is reporting that Hamas leaders have said this isn't true

They won't negotiate anything unless there is a full ceasefire.
The Egyptian plan doesn't start off with a full ceasefire but one that can eventually possibly lead to one
I would also be interested to know if anyone knows what Israel's reaction to the Egyptian proposal is, as I haven't seen that anywhere

SomeCatFromJapan · 25/12/2023 22:57

It's a shame, it would have been a good outcome for everyone bar the greedy murderous parasites who live off Gazans' misery.

stomachamaleon · 25/12/2023 22:55

@SomeCatFromJapan that's the one I am talking about. Has been offered in the last couple of days I believe.

www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/hamas-islamic-jihad-reject-giving-up-power-return-permanent-ceasefire-egyptian-2023-12-25/

Polka83 · 25/12/2023 22:54

SomeCatFromJapan · 25/12/2023 22:42

The link says Hamas wants permanent ceasefire.

They want a permanent ceasefire thst leaves them in situ. That's clearly not going to happen.

Theyve rejected the proposed ceasefire that would require them to no longer govern Gaza.

https://x.com/gaza_report/status/1739272944281399343?s=20

It takes 2 to tango and Netanyahu’s government not interested in a ceasefire.

SomeCatFromJapan · 25/12/2023 22:42

The link says Hamas wants permanent ceasefire.

They want a permanent ceasefire thst leaves them in situ. That's clearly not going to happen.

Theyve rejected the proposed ceasefire that would require them to no longer govern Gaza.

https://x.com/gaza_report/status/1739272944281399343?s=20

https://x.com/gaza_report/status/1739272944281399343?s=20

Polka83 · 25/12/2023 22:36

@stomachamaleon

The link says Hamas wants permanent ceasefire.

The group said: "We reiterate that there can be no negotiations without a comprehensive cessation of aggression.
"Hamas leadership seeks a permanent cessation to the aggression and massacres against our people.
"Our people want to see this aggression completely halted, and do not want to wait for a temporary or partial truce for a short period, after which the aggression and terrorism might fatally continue."

Polka83 · 25/12/2023 22:33

stomachamaleon · 25/12/2023 20:29

@Polka83 well the post above you has just confirmed what they have declined now.
A ceasefire.
Not sure what they would find unreasonable?

Are you talking about the link @Silence1 posted?

It doesn’t actually say Hamas doesn’t want a ceasefire but it does say that Netanyahu doesn’t want one!

« We are receiving more comments from Benjamin Netanyahu, who has been giving a speech in Israel's parliament.
The country's leader has said that Israel will not succeed in freeing the remaining hostages held in Gaza without military pressure.
He said: "We wouldn't have succeeded up until now to release more than 100 hostages without military pressure.
"And we won't succeed at releasing all the hostages without military pressure."
Mr Netanyahu said earlier that Israel would "continue to fight" and is "expanding the fight in the coming days". »

stomachamaleon · 25/12/2023 22:26

No it really doesn't.

braticus · 25/12/2023 20:47

1dayatatime · 25/12/2023 20:44

@Thereissomelight

"Yes it’s Hamas. We know that.
So why is Israel murdering thousands of innocent CHILDREN in response?"

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Because Israel wants to kill Hamas and Hamas are hiding amongst thousands of innocent civilians including children?

And that makes it ok?

1dayatatime · 25/12/2023 20:44

@Thereissomelight

"Yes it’s Hamas. We know that.
So why is Israel murdering thousands of innocent CHILDREN in response?"

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Because Israel wants to kill Hamas and Hamas are hiding amongst thousands of innocent civilians including children?

stomachamaleon · 25/12/2023 20:38

@Silence1 there is a lot in there to take in.

Thereissomelight · 25/12/2023 20:36

stomachamaleon · 25/12/2023 19:12

@TwilightSkies why is that?
Who is firing rockets into Israel?
Who went into kibbutz and murdered peace activists, children and the elderly? (Actually that's a trick question as it wasn't just hamas)
Who is Refusing to surrender and hand over power to a government set up Arab countries helping?
I will give you a clue if you like....

Yes it’s Hamas. We know that.
So why is Israel murdering thousands of innocent CHILDREN in response?