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sorry if I am being dense but do you mean America? No I don’t think they had anything to do with it , but certainly knew of it.

Lebanon is a puppet regime , the Mossad knows there will be no retaliation from them ,
The whole thing was done with precision , no other casualties , you can’t do that freely without insider help, specially in a place like south Beirut .

@stomachamaleon I agree it is too soon to know who it is.

Right now I don't actually suspect Israel either. It goes against statements officials have made stating that Iran was not responsible for the 7th October.

I fully agree with @FOJN latest post. There are nefarious actors who are positively itching to get Iran involved in the war (Senator Lindsay Graham and the abhorrent John Bolton) thinking that it would be an easy win for America and her allies.

We all know about the Western "help" with the Iranian revolution in 1950s which led to the 1979 revolution.

Whoever carried it out are terrorists.

Anyway, off to cook now. Fingers crossed things remain calm.

No problem.

I apologise. I did your right.

Your ' ' were noted. Please stop imagining my every post is directed at you and read the thread.

@FOJN that's the reason I highlighted 'resistance'. It's what I have read online.

@BelleHathor there are always protests in iran saying death to America. This is no new thing.
Have just watched channel 4 news and consensus on there was that it was ISIS that targeted Iran today.
And that Hezbollah said no more Today than they have before... lots of postering but they don't want to get any more involved. They view the limitless war the one that's being waged on the front in Lebanon.

The Hamas leader they nodded may have been removed by America as much as Israel.

They did agree Qatar is no no with regard to assassinating anyone there due to diplomatic relations.

Sorry for that's a bit garbled was trying to remember what I watched.

If it's not domestic terrorists then it's likely some non Iranian actor hoping to provoke them to get directly involved in the Israel Gaza war.

The US has wanted a war with Iran for years or rather Israel has been encouraging them to start a war with Iran for years. Could be CIA, it wouldn't be their first rodeo interfering in Iranian affairs.

I think Israel is too obvious and the timing is not in their favour but they haven't been subtle or considered in the Gaza war so who knows.

Someone from the Iranian opposition was encouraging Israel to attack Iran to help them overthrow the government.

https://www.iranintl.com/en/202401037373

It's interesting that if you plant two bombs and kill a hundred people in Iran you are Iranian resistance fighters rather than terrorists.

Bloodthirsty. Blame the west even if not. Support terrorists in the M E cause mayhem. Madmen intent on their radical beliefs don't give a flying monies about children getting killed

And when the response is bombing US bases or oilfields in the region? Or perhaps start assassinating Western agents in other countries ( as that's allowed now). There will have to be a response, which could lead to a regional conflict.

Urp, they will just blame the west or Israel regardless.

@stomachamaleon It really doesn't matter who is responsible. It's about who people think is responsible.

There are protests in Iran right now shouting "Death to America, Death to Israel". Even if it is not a western aligned entity and instead an opportunistic attack by unknown parties, "the West" will be blamed.
https://x.com/mrbarnicoat/status/1742576919185367518?s=20

@BelleHathor at this moment in time it seems unlikely that was Israel. Surely under the circumstances the 'resistance' is Iran would be given more empathy? In which case why would the west be able to 'restrain' them?

It's terrible, mostly civilians killed. Very symbolic as today is the anniversary of Soleimenis death.

They were killed paying their respects, with a 2nd explosion 20 minutes after the 1st which harmed rescuers.

Nasrallah from Hezbollah has just finished his speech and vowed revenge for the assassination yesterday in Beirut. Another speech due on Friday.

Whichever idiots we have in charge in the West need to restrain whichever actors that are trying to set the region on fire.

A little bit more info from Aljazeera.

www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2024/1/3/iran-blasts-live-deadly-explosions-target-soleimani-killing-anniversary

Think unlikely to be Israel, they really don’t want an escalation with Iran. Reports I am seeing is Iranian resistance groups.

Reports of a terrorist attack in Tehran at a ceremony to commemorate the assassination of Qasem Soleimani. 100 people are estimated to have been killed. Immediate suspicion has fallen on Israel but the report gives no information to substantiate that claim.

There are multiple actors who may think they would benefit from an escalation with Iran so I don't think it's easy to determine who is responsible.

@queenofarles sorry if I am being dense but do you mean America?

@EllaDisenchanted as someone with family in Israel I wholeheartedly support and understand what you are saying.

Yes it doesn't seem like the PM of Lebanon wants to go to war with Israel either and I read he has asked Hezbollah not to retaliate but it doesn't seem he has much sway in the matter.

@Parkingt111 i am not sure. I think there’s been ongoing efforts to solve diplomatically. I just don’t get the UN in all of this. This would be the best place in my opinion for them to show that they can be a real force for peace. If they can follow through with hezbollah wouldn’t that demonstrate they could be part of the solution down south ? By continuing to ignore hezbollahs violation of resolution 1701 as they have for years it just shows how unreliable they are. It’s all very well if they get people to agree and sign resolutions, but they’re worthless if they aren’t then enforced.
again this is my personal thoughts
also the impression I get is Hezbollah and Lebanon are very separate and Israel has no beef with Lebanon.
the worry with Hezbollah is that if Hamas can commit oct 7th, then Hezbollah is capable of far worse.

@EllaDisenchanted that is terrible and I'm sorry for what you are going through right now. You are right it is very under reported. I don't know much about Hezbollah or Lebanon but I do find it all very worrying.
Just a thought that can the US not step in and give an ultimatum or would that make it worse?
I don't know i just really really want this whole war to end
The UN not condemning Hezbollah is disgraceful

This assassination is not something that just happened nor was Isreal able to go ahead without some help from inside of Lebanon, its clear to those who follow the situation there closely who is behind it .

i don’t think many realise how Vulnerable Lebanon is at the moment , they don’t have a president , PM Najeeb makati is relatively weak , the whole government is useless , and the last thing they want is another war , they’ve been through it in the 70s and 80s . A terrible civil war they are still reeling from .

It seems to be very unreported, but Hezbollah are firing up north practically daily, including anti tank missiles. If the villages and towns hadn't been evacuated, there would be high civilian losses. Half of Kibbutz Manara has been destroyed. The North has been under regular attack since the start. Yesterday for example they had sirens at 15.25, 15.36, 15.38, and 17.57.

I could be wrong, but I haven't see the UN condemning Hezbollah, or seeming particularly interested. The whole situation is insane to me. It's hard for me to worry about a retaliation, because they have already been attacking, and I know they can step things up and they have way more firepower, but given no-one in the UN or anywhere else seems bothered about them firing at us up north, genuinely what is to stop them from stepping up anyway, if they see no-one (outside Israel) is stepping in to stop them? *

*This is just my personal feeling about it all