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Theories on why the US government are making themselves complicit in war crimes to support Israel

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PeasfullPerson · 09/12/2023 09:18

What are they getting out of this? Enlighten me.

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BelleHathor · 09/12/2023 14:01

As per previous poster, Lobbying groups have a lot of power in America, read up about K Street in Washington.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/K_Street_(Washington,_D.C.)

The USA is a failing Great Power who was used to being the big dog with no peers on the world stage. They were able to "bully" other countries to protect Americas interests.

The growth of China under Xi and re-emergence Russia under Putin means that there's now a counter balance. The BRICS alliance means that most of the Global South is looking towards a Multipolar world based on cooperation and trade, not bullying.

America didn't realise this/can't accept it, so they've reverted to type, not realising that most of the world is disgusted by their complicity.

Biden has to double down as he is known as the president who governed over the catastrophic withdrawal from Afghanistan and losing the Ukraine conflict. They're also broke and War is extremely profitable.

K Street (Washington, D.C.) - Wikipedia

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/K_Street_(Washington,_D.C.)

FreedomOfSpeechBelongToEveryone · 09/12/2023 11:24

Don’t the politicians get tired of having to go in front of cameras and just lie?

John Kirby just said along the lines ”name one country who does more to protect people in Gaza”….
Eeerrhhmmm…..
Like what is the point of these press conferences at all?

People are watching the news, actual news and events that is, on social media, turn on the news and watch politicians blantatly lie, and spead hate speech (anti-arab, anti-muslim, anti-Palestinian narratives).
Do they not realize that people actually know what’s going on? Who are they lying to?

PeasfullPerson · 09/12/2023 10:00

Ha we are definitely their poodle, I like that description. Even more so since we alienated ourselves from Europe.

The vast majority of Americans don’t support the IDF either, so the US government must really believe they need Israel on side. How will they detect threats against America from there? Do you think that’s the only reason? Lobbying groups aside.

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ChickHenLittle · 09/12/2023 09:48

Agree with both previous posts. Embarrassing that the PM would rather sit on the fence than do the right thing. Listen to the public - the large majority of us DO NOT support the actions of the IDF.

Ardith · 09/12/2023 09:30

There are very powerful pro-Israel lobby groups in the US, it’s weird. But also, Israel will be a key part of the US’ defence strategy in the Middle East ie in return for political support, Israel will allow then US to keep military spy kit there that helps the US detect threats against America.

I’m furious that the UK abstained from
the vote despite the strength of feeling about it in the UK. Just makes us look like the US’ poodle, yet again.

1234Kitty · 09/12/2023 09:29

A military position in the Middle East.