Why Can't Gazans Leave?

I try to be rational but in this instance il be honest it sounds like a trap. A humanatarian compound will be made. Gazans will move there and conveniently so will Hamas
You know what comes next

@stormy4319trevor I saw that too although I wouldn't blame the Gazan's if they didn't want to move there even if one was made. Most of the previous safe zones have all been bombed so why would this one be any different

Sounds about right

This is rafah right now. There's no bodies or anything, you can just see the strikes and how close they are to the displaced civilians who were told to move there

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C1Ew8ZAM45Q/?igshid=MjM0N2Q2NDBjYg==

Saw that too @stormy4319trevor - slightly sinister overtones

Israel have been talking about setting up a field hospital in northern gaza for a while and also have ongoing plans with Cyprus/EU wrt setting up a [UN-free] maritime humanitarian route - so maybe part of that

It'll be a good place to re-locate those pesky civilians who keep getting in the way down in Rafah

I saw something about the Israeli government thinking of building a 'humanitarian compound' in the north, and moving some Palestinians there. It was in yesterday's Guardian, which I can't see right now. It sounded vague and I don't know what to think about it. It sounds good, but will it be guarded by IDF forces, will people have freedom of movement and families kept together?

https://www.palestinechronicle.com/crime-of-genocide-south-africa-officially-brings-war-crimes-charges-against-israel-at-icc/

Crime of Genocide – South Africa Officially Brings War Crimes Charges against Israel at ICC

@MissyB1 - my DT’s finished Uni a couple of years - part of their Uni time was during the pandemic. Thinking about their difficulties is nothing compared to the university students in Gaza who have had their futures destroyed, and many may not be alive now.

Destroying universities/schools/hospitals and desecrating graves, can they get any lower?! 😡

18% is an outlier by a long way in terms of estimating the amount of buildings destroyed in Gaza

Here's an interesting article on the contentious and difficult business of estimating damage from a couple of weeks ago

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/dec/07/widespread-destruction-in-gaza-puts-concept-of-domicide-in-focus

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20231215-6-gaza-cemeteries-destroyed-by-israel-report-reveals/amp/

https://protectingeducation.org/news/educational-toll-of-gaza-war-at-least-2-universities-148-schools/

Graveyards,schools and the university destroyed.

That's not true. Reuters state 18% of buildings destroyed or damaged not everything. There are 25,000 dead. There are 2.5 million people there still. Hopefully a ceasefire can be agreed and permanent. Facts and logic needed from both sides to move forward.

https://www.reuters.com/pictures/pictures-nearly-fifth-gazas-buildings-destroyed-or-damaged-un-estimate-2023-12-12/

Reuters story shows about 18% of buildings destroyed or damaged at around 6 days ago. If they have a ceasefire after talks today clearance of destroyed buildings could be cleared so people could move into the 80% non damaged buildings. Permanent ceasefire could lead to rebuild and people moving from the dreadful conditions in the tent camps.

Aid to rebuild and mediation needed.

Was reading an article yesterday about the destruction of well known archaeological site outside Khan Younis - think it was 33 craters seen on satellite images and it's further destruction by flooding the tunnels there. That's the 3rd place I've seen being subject to flooding despite all the expressed concerns for the water table and environment

Just 'something else' that will destroy Gaza for the future and make it unliveable

Plus bombing isn't sufficient to remove the tunnels even in a wide open space with no housing

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It's totally crap isn't it

When I think of their lovely university, the libraries, archives, schools, places of worship I could cry really. Imagine the loss of all cultural memory, love of learning, spiritual sanctuaries, all that is aspirational And then to live in tents, in a barren desert of rubble and sand.

It's grim isn't it - tho' some things will be better than now - low bar I know

It will be acres and acres of white refugee 'tent cities' but with sanitation, better drainage and more robust tents

People will be warmer, fed and safe from attack

A field hospital and/or tented clinics for healthcare

NGOs will set up tented schools

Then gradually over years [IDK ?decades] these will become more permanent structures..................

The human and financial cost will be vast beyond imagining

There is nothing left for them - Israel have even bulldozed their graveyards! Unforgivable.

That's the thing, isn't it. Even if there was a ceasefire tomorrow there is no housing, no hospitals, roads and sanitation systems not working, dangerous and unstable structures everywhere. It will be a massive operation to clean up and rebuild. In the meantime I don't know how people are supposed to survive.

This is Gaza
They can't leave. But how they will live after the war when much of Gaza looks like this, I have no idea

Pictures are from BBC and not social media. The ones from there were too graphic to post without adding a trigger warning

Aftermath of a strike in Rafah today. Rafah is in the south, one of the closest areas to the Egyptian border. It is also a safe zone but it has been clear from a long time that there are no safe places in Gaza.

Indeed. Didn’t say it was.

Reforming the voting system isn’t an enforcement action.