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Do lots of people support Hamas?

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elprup · 03/12/2023 20:33

I just read this story and it is absolutely horrific

I saw ten Hamas terrorists beat and gang-rape an Israeli woman

https://mol.im/a/12820081

Is everyone on the pro-Palestine marches in London solely supporting the innocent civilians of Palestine (as I do too)? Or are there some people on these marches supporting the actions of Hamas as well?

I want to join the marches in support of innocent adults and kids in Gaza (and I would want to march for the same reasons on any pro Israel marches too), but I do not want to endorse Hamas in any shape or form. They are absolutely vile.

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basculin · 26/12/2023 18:20

Trulywonderful · 26/12/2023 16:39

He has been reported to the police by numerous twitter users apparently

Charming human being isn't he

I'm sure the police will do sweet fuck all.

Fynetanksfather · 26/12/2023 18:06

I was really shocked to see pro-Palestine rhetoric start up immediately in direct response to October 7th (even though I am ‘pro-Palestine’, it seemed horrible timing – I wouldn’t even say ‘insensitive timing’ as I suppose the lack of sensitivity was knowing). Likewise the support for Hamas shown on marches in places like Manchester. Seriously, wtf. Did any of these people actually see the footage of what they did? The young women being set upon and paraded round the streets like Colonel Gaddafi? It was sickening, horrific. Those innocent people did not deserve that.

That, along with open antisemitism all over the place right now, it’s not surprising many in the Jewish community do not feel safe.

I fully support a ceasefire and support Palestinian civilians but do not support Hamas.

I would not personally go on a march right now, although I do support the calls for a ceasefire, as I would not want to contribute to Jewish people feeling unsafe. I absolutely support people’s right to march though, and think the overwhelming majority of people marching are doing so out if humanitarian concern for people in Palestine, and like me would not wish for anyone to feel unsafe as a result.

Trulywonderful · 26/12/2023 16:39

He has been reported to the police by numerous twitter users apparently

Charming human being isn't he

Do lots of people support Hamas?
Trulywonderful · 24/12/2023 01:56

Assad says he supports Hamas but as stated here or by anyone that knows about the politics over the last X number of years it doesn't mean much. Though I suppose Assad did kill 7400 Palestinian women and children in a few weeks after he had already let them be tortured and raped by his own men. So he cares about Palestinians about as much as Hamas does. Therefore they have that in common.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/12/10/syrias-al-assad-and-supporting-hamas-all-for-political-gain-or-optics

Is Syria’s al-Assad supporting Hamas for political gain or optics?

As Syria slowly reentered the Arab fold, it mended relations with Hamas, but that doesn’t necessarily mean much.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/12/10/syrias-al-assad-and-supporting-hamas-all-for-political-gain-or-optics

HeidiInTheBigCity · 12/12/2023 19:03

Parkingt111 · 12/12/2023 18:50

Yes exactly this
There was outrage over Al shifa hospital and now its just become the norm to attack and raid hospitals full of civilians, injured and ill babies

Anyone still remember how the explosion at Al-Ahli was a major propaganda war?

This was just - metaphorically speaking - "the day before yesterday". And in the meantime, we have arrived at "yeah, so, bombing, shelling, and invading hospitals is just par for the course, we guess!".

People do not even get outraged about any of this anymore. We seem to have totally normalised the targetting of fucking hospitals at this point!

I have no words!

Parkingt111 · 12/12/2023 18:50

ChickHenLittle · 12/12/2023 18:39

I've been reading about this - how dare they. I get angrier the more I read. How spineless and lacking in humanity are our government(s) that they let this happen under the repeated pretense of "We thought they were Hamas". Every civilian is apparently Hamas, as every school, hospital, home, etc. is a base or weapons facility.

Yes exactly this
There was outrage over Al shifa hospital and now its just become the norm to attack and raid hospitals full of civilians, injured and ill babies

Swishyfishy · 12/12/2023 18:46

I’ve never met one single pro Hamas person! Ive met lots of pro Palestine people however, outraged by the vile treatment of innocent children, women, men

ChickHenLittle · 12/12/2023 18:39

Crispedia · 11/12/2023 19:08

“Palestinians rounded up by Israeli forces in Gaza City have described being stripped, blindfolded, numbered and tortured while detained.

This group of detainees have now been released and are receiving medical treatment ⤵️”

https://twitter.com/AJEnglish/status/1733890763048591618/video/1

Edited

I've been reading about this - how dare they. I get angrier the more I read. How spineless and lacking in humanity are our government(s) that they let this happen under the repeated pretense of "We thought they were Hamas". Every civilian is apparently Hamas, as every school, hospital, home, etc. is a base or weapons facility.

MindyMindz · 12/12/2023 16:19

Crispedia · 11/12/2023 19:08

“Palestinians rounded up by Israeli forces in Gaza City have described being stripped, blindfolded, numbered and tortured while detained.

This group of detainees have now been released and are receiving medical treatment ⤵️”

https://twitter.com/AJEnglish/status/1733890763048591618/video/1

Edited

It's worse than we can imagine...

Trulywonderful · 12/12/2023 01:34

Not Hamas supporter but PFLP, same difference in this 'context'

"An individual on Whitehall brazenly wears a headband brandishing the symbol of the PFLP, a terrorist organisation that murders Jews, during Saturday’s anti-Israel demo in London."

https://twitter.com/antisemitism/status/1734252240930566398

https://twitter.com/antisemitism/status/1734252240930566398

Trulywonderful · 12/12/2023 00:55

Well it looks like this british doctor supports Hamas

“Hamas said they didn’t want to harm women and children.”

But they did and broadcasted it for the world to see.

“Well that’s what you saw.”

Or needs to get his eyes checked

https://twitter.com/HenMazzig/status/1734320405463097535

https://twitter.com/HenMazzig/status/1734320405463097535

Livinginanotherworld · 11/12/2023 19:22

Crispedia · 11/12/2023 19:08

“Palestinians rounded up by Israeli forces in Gaza City have described being stripped, blindfolded, numbered and tortured while detained.

This group of detainees have now been released and are receiving medical treatment ⤵️”

https://twitter.com/AJEnglish/status/1733890763048591618/video/1

Edited

This is a war crime.

Crispedia · 11/12/2023 19:08

“Palestinians rounded up by Israeli forces in Gaza City have described being stripped, blindfolded, numbered and tortured while detained.

This group of detainees have now been released and are receiving medical treatment ⤵️”

https://twitter.com/AJEnglish/status/1733890763048591618/video/1

https://twitter.com/AJEnglish/status/1733890763048591618/video/1

Livinginanotherworld · 11/12/2023 18:32

etmoiandme · 11/12/2023 13:22

Oh lo and behold - the world's unluckiest racist has "the closest ties"!

Interesting article. How unbiased is this International Israeli News Agency ?

etmoiandme · 11/12/2023 14:51

Hamas actual policy which is to limit resistance to “Zionist occupation”

Well that's certainly one way of putting what happened on 7th October 2023. Next you'll be telling me they're resistance fighters.

It’s as OK as the Israeli Interior Minister saying just drop a nuclear bomb on Gaza. Which is to say, it’s not ok. It is genocide rhetoric.

Yes, I agree that is genocide rhetoric.

BabaBarrio · 11/12/2023 14:42

etmoiandme · 11/12/2023 14:27

Ah well, that makes it OK then. I'm sure absolutely none of his friends in Hamas agree with him.

It’s as OK as the Israeli Interior Minister saying just drop a nuclear bomb on Gaza. Which is to say, it’s not ok. It is genocide rhetoric.

But the rhetoric you posted is more than four years old, the person was kicked out of Hamas for saying it and has retracted his comments saying he agrees with Hamas actual policy which is to limit resistance to “Zionist occupation” but in the other case the rhetoric is only one month old, the person still has their high ranking job in the Israeli government, and has not retracted their comments to say they agree with Israel’s official policy.

etmoiandme · 11/12/2023 14:27

Ah well, that makes it OK then. I'm sure absolutely none of his friends in Hamas agree with him.

BabaBarrio · 11/12/2023 14:24

etmoiandme · 11/12/2023 13:58

I've seen quite a lot of comments, maybe on a different thread, that Hamas don't want the global destruction of Jews because they changed their charter actually.

"There are Jews everywhere. We must attack every Jew on the face of the planet".

https://twitter.com/LizaRosen0000/status/1734174597124071867

The man saying that, Fathi Hammad, was kicked out of Hamas for that rant which was from July 2019. At the time, he wasn’t even a senior official within Hamas having been sacked from those positions for extremism.

That rant was widely condemned by Hamas and other Palestinians as well as the international community. He later retracted them and stated that he supports the Hamas policy of "limiting its resistance to the Zionist occupation that usurps Palestine’s land and defiles its holy sites".

It’s a four year old version of what Amichai Eliyah said last month. Amichai Eliyah is the Interior Minister of Israel, who said a nuclear bomb should be dropped on Gaza. Eliyah hasn’t been sacked, he is still the Interior Minister, he’s just been suspended from attending war cabinet meetings.

etmoiandme · 11/12/2023 13:58

I've seen quite a lot of comments, maybe on a different thread, that Hamas don't want the global destruction of Jews because they changed their charter actually.

"There are Jews everywhere. We must attack every Jew on the face of the planet".

https://twitter.com/LizaRosen0000/status/1734174597124071867

https://twitter.com/LizaRosen0000/status/1734174597124071867

Trulywonderful · 11/12/2023 13:49

ChickHenLittle · 11/12/2023 13:29

Agreed, the reference doesn't tie in to a Middle Eastern country either, none end in -istan. It's as if Muslims are just lumped together regardless of provenance/actual geographic location, and the use of such phrases has become fairly commonplace.

True

The use of it comes from a place of ignorance and racism. Though of course people that use it think they are being clever.

London has various different Muslim communities within it whose heritage come from all over the world.

This stuff annoys me a lot

etmoiandme · 11/12/2023 13:35

ChickHenLittle · 11/12/2023 13:29

Agreed, the reference doesn't tie in to a Middle Eastern country either, none end in -istan. It's as if Muslims are just lumped together regardless of provenance/actual geographic location, and the use of such phrases has become fairly commonplace.

Generally when people use that term they don't actually care (or know) whether it ties into the Middle East or not - because they're racist and love a racist slogan. It got banded about a lot in the wake of 9/11 and it absolutely turns my stomach. It should be called out at all times.