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Do lots of people support Hamas?

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elprup · 03/12/2023 20:33

I just read this story and it is absolutely horrific

I saw ten Hamas terrorists beat and gang-rape an Israeli woman

https://mol.im/a/12820081

Is everyone on the pro-Palestine marches in London solely supporting the innocent civilians of Palestine (as I do too)? Or are there some people on these marches supporting the actions of Hamas as well?

I want to join the marches in support of innocent adults and kids in Gaza (and I would want to march for the same reasons on any pro Israel marches too), but I do not want to endorse Hamas in any shape or form. They are absolutely vile.

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CrappyBarbara · 29/12/2023 01:31

Because there’s no way multiple people could actually disagree with your stance? That kind of ignorant thinking is exactly why none of this is ever going to be fixed.

Trulywonderful · 29/12/2023 00:18

I just edited to add what I said because apparently you didn't read it in the original post

I just don't value one life over another. It is a rule of thumb I think I will stick with thanks

Toothyfruity · 29/12/2023 00:15

You said you don't have much respect for UN workers whilst we're discussing their murders.

Most people agree that killing press and aid workers in war is illegal and morally reprehensible. As is killing civilians. But a lot of posters here can justify all of the above when it's happening to Gazans.

Trulywonderful · 29/12/2023 00:12

Toothyfruity · 29/12/2023 00:00

You might not have respect for them or think murdering UN workers or journalists is a big deal but most decent people in the world would disagree with you.

I said I see their deaths as no different from the other deaths. A life is a life. Nobody is more important because of their job. I think most decent people will actually agree on that.

Either way a life lost is a life lost their job or heritage is irrelevant in that seems.

Seems should obviously say sense. Silly autocorrect plus as I am always saying I do need to start proof reading my posts

Toothyfruity · 29/12/2023 00:00

You might not have respect for them or think murdering UN workers or journalists is a big deal but most decent people in the world would disagree with you.

Trulywonderful · 28/12/2023 23:52

"Established in 1949 following the first Arab-Israeli war, UNRWA provides public services including schools, healthcare and aid. Many of UNRWA's 5,000 staff working in Gaza are Palestinian refugees themselves"

As they have so many employees and I believe are part of the UN death count. Plus some have been reported by hostages as being involved in keeping them captive, it does make sense some will have also been killed because a few are definitely Hamas members/supporters it seems. So likely to be in a place targeted. However that is still a large number of UN deaths.

In general I see UN and journalist deaths as not any different from other deaths. A life is a life and a lot of the UN employees and Journalists are Gazen with their own families living in Gaza. I don't know if the numbers are available for who is Gazen born or a Palestinian refugee etc but that would solve a pondering of mine. Either way a life lost is a life lost their job or heritage is irrelevant in that seems.

Nothing means I have much respect for the UN or its workers either. They lost my respect years ago and the whole Iran/hijab / women's rights committee thing didn't exactly win my opinion back

Toothyfruity · 28/12/2023 23:14

stomachamaleon · 28/12/2023 23:08

@Trulywonderful I am pleased Israel have decided to be a bit more picky about what UN officials they let in. Looking for clear bias.

I thought UN stuff gave you a good chuckle @Toothyfruity? This fit in with your view of what the UN is supposed to do? It doesn't fit in with mine. They are complicit.

I did think that a grown adult believing that the UN produce rockets and store them in UN labelled boxes ready for the IDF to find and photograph was preposterous and ridiculous yes, but some people around here will believe anything.

I don't find killing over a hundred UN staff funny though, and I find your rhetoric about them dangerous and disturbing. I'll hold my judgment on the post above because "a UN employee apparently" posted on mumsnet isn't compelling evidence.

stomachamaleon · 28/12/2023 23:08

@Trulywonderful I am pleased Israel have decided to be a bit more picky about what UN officials they let in. Looking for clear bias.

I thought UN stuff gave you a good chuckle @Toothyfruity? This fit in with your view of what the UN is supposed to do? It doesn't fit in with mine. They are complicit.

Toothyfruity · 28/12/2023 23:03

Israel has killed 101 UN employees in Gaza in the last 83 days.

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Trulywonderful · 28/12/2023 22:51

etmoiandme · 28/12/2023 22:38

A UN employee apparently

"We love Hamas..."

https://twitter.com/Khaledhzakariah/status/1740372126828257454

Yet apparently we are to believe all UN employees are neutral

Trulywonderful · 28/12/2023 22:23

This bloke has a smile on his face about the pogrom according to himself. So definitely a Hamas fan then

https://twitter.com/MEMRIReports/status/1740305718245240843

https://twitter.com/MEMRIReports/status/1740305718245240843

Trulywonderful · 28/12/2023 22:15

Don't actually know which thread to post this resistance message found at a bus stop on but this seems about right

https://twitter.com/antisemitism/status/1740325853777584451

https://twitter.com/antisemitism/status/1740325853777584451

etmoiandme · 28/12/2023 18:10

Ah, a self-described communist, of course!

Trulywonderful · 28/12/2023 18:01

Not sure what his concept of a Hamas is but I can guarantee it is nothing in reality like he would expect or want to live with

Do lots of people support Hamas?
Trulywonderful · 28/12/2023 17:57

This guy is a charmer

Do lots of people support Hamas?
Trulywonderful · 27/12/2023 23:14

stomachamaleon · 27/12/2023 23:04

@Trulywonderful do you think that's serious? It needs reporting either way. I imagine most people couldn't pick up sinwar In a line up or know what he is capable off.

He took a man out to the desert and presented him with his brother who was suspected of being an Israeli cooperator. He made him bury him alive.

This is not a nice man.

Well I definitely won't be inviting him around for tea that's for sure

Even before your horrific story he was on my never invite around for tea list

Trulywonderful · 27/12/2023 23:12

Think they deleted it and people have already reported it

I am giving them the benefit of the doubt that it is just a sick joke by 'youth' that should know better than to make that particular post.

stomachamaleon · 27/12/2023 23:04

@Trulywonderful do you think that's serious? It needs reporting either way. I imagine most people couldn't pick up sinwar In a line up or know what he is capable off.

He took a man out to the desert and presented him with his brother who was suspected of being an Israeli cooperator. He made him bury him alive.

This is not a nice man.

Trulywonderful · 27/12/2023 22:29

Make of this one what you will

Not sure if a bad joke or they mean it

Definitely to close to call if you ask me, it could go either way

Do lots of people support Hamas?
XRAYTHIS · 26/12/2023 22:27

Fynetanksfather · 26/12/2023 18:06

I was really shocked to see pro-Palestine rhetoric start up immediately in direct response to October 7th (even though I am ‘pro-Palestine’, it seemed horrible timing – I wouldn’t even say ‘insensitive timing’ as I suppose the lack of sensitivity was knowing). Likewise the support for Hamas shown on marches in places like Manchester. Seriously, wtf. Did any of these people actually see the footage of what they did? The young women being set upon and paraded round the streets like Colonel Gaddafi? It was sickening, horrific. Those innocent people did not deserve that.

That, along with open antisemitism all over the place right now, it’s not surprising many in the Jewish community do not feel safe.

I fully support a ceasefire and support Palestinian civilians but do not support Hamas.

I would not personally go on a march right now, although I do support the calls for a ceasefire, as I would not want to contribute to Jewish people feeling unsafe. I absolutely support people’s right to march though, and think the overwhelming majority of people marching are doing so out if humanitarian concern for people in Palestine, and like me would not wish for anyone to feel unsafe as a result.

I feel like this too.

Trulywonderful · 26/12/2023 19:55

stomachamaleon · 26/12/2023 18:27

@Trulywonderful I feel sorry for the comedian who shares a name with him.

I little unfortunate yes

stomachamaleon · 26/12/2023 18:27

@Trulywonderful I feel sorry for the comedian who shares a name with him.

stomachamaleon · 26/12/2023 18:25

Thanks for that post @Fynetanksfather.

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