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IDF shot a 9 year old boy

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ThickPinkSocks · 29/11/2023 20:18

Why is this not in the mainstream news? I thought there was a ceasefire!

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beigecartoon · 02/12/2023 20:07

Oh and you’re living in lala land if you think Israel will allow palestine to rebuild palestine for palestinians after the war. They’ll just steal the land, the natural gas and oil, and put settlers in place. As they’ve openly stated they will.

beigecartoon · 02/12/2023 20:04

I gave you my solution, maybe you didn’t read it?

I’d suggest a solution is to stop stealing land, give Palestinians human rights and do some serious diplomacy. If South Africa can sort apartheid out, Israel and Palestine can.

miniegg3 · 02/12/2023 20:01

beigecartoon · 02/12/2023 19:57

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/02/israels-apartheid-against-palestinians-a-cruel-system-of-domination-and-a-crime-against-humanity/

sorry to burst your bubble, @miniegg3 this definitely didn’t start on 7th October.

many decades ago, unfortunately. Israeli govt has been the cruel oppressor of Palestinian people for many decades.

I’d suggest a solution is to stop stealing land, give Palestinians human rights and do some serious diplomacy. If South Africa can sort apartheid out, Israel and Palestine can.

Isarael has refused a two state solution. i’m not sure of the best state based solution personally but treating them as equal human beings would be a start.

And palastine have refused many more times than that. So you don't have a suggestion them?

Yes I'm aware it's been going on much longer, I don't have a bubble thanks.. I mean the current war obviously

parksandrecs · 02/12/2023 19:59

You don't defeat terrorists by 'beating them at their own game' and doing even worse. I can't see one example in history where being more brutal than terrorists has worked.

Except maybe the Zionist terrorist groups who helped establish Israel. But they were in a context of (rightful) world horror at the holocaust, so had a very guilty world that was willing to atone by turning a blind eye to the Palestinian people.

ChickHenLittle · 02/12/2023 19:57

miniegg3 · 02/12/2023 19:53

And what.. all live happily ever after?
Or wait for another mass killing from hamas?

You can try and insult me all you want, but I'm a realist not living in lala land

The IDF are ever so restrained, at least.

beigecartoon · 02/12/2023 19:57

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/02/israels-apartheid-against-palestinians-a-cruel-system-of-domination-and-a-crime-against-humanity/

sorry to burst your bubble, @miniegg3 this definitely didn’t start on 7th October.

many decades ago, unfortunately. Israeli govt has been the cruel oppressor of Palestinian people for many decades.

I’d suggest a solution is to stop stealing land, give Palestinians human rights and do some serious diplomacy. If South Africa can sort apartheid out, Israel and Palestine can.

Isarael has refused a two state solution. i’m not sure of the best state based solution personally but treating them as equal human beings would be a start.

Israel’s apartheid against Palestinians: a cruel system of domination and a crime against humanity

Israeli authorities must be held accountable for committing the crime of apartheid against Palestinians, Amnesty International said today in a damning new report. The investigation details how Israel enforces a system of oppression and domination again...

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/02/israels-apartheid-against-palestinians-a-cruel-system-of-domination-and-a-crime-against-humanity/

feralunderclass · 02/12/2023 19:56

miniegg3 · 02/12/2023 19:32

So obviously it's a fake screenshot then 🙈 I can't upload videos on here..
So are you saying its acceptable that hamas intend to kill all Jews?
And you're saying that the IDF should do nothing in return?
There will never be peace under hamas rule because they don't want a ceasefire and the don't want a 2 state solution!

What do people actually suggest could work?

To be factual, Hamas did not say they want to kill all Jews. They make it clear that they are not against Jewish people, they are fighting against the Zionist occupation.

OuiOuiKitty · 02/12/2023 19:53

miniegg3 · 02/12/2023 19:46

What do you suggest?

It's was against terrorists, war in never pleasant. I think people forget its happening all over, not just in gaza.

I would suggest that they stick to international law. That the collective punishment by way of starvation of food water and aid should never have happened. That the attacks on medics, medical facilities, premature babies and patients should never have happened. That the flattening of half of Gaza should never have happened. That Israel should have used its intelligence and billions of aid money to actually target Hamas not throw the equivalent of who knows how many nuclear bombs at this stage into Gaza and see what happens.

miniegg3 · 02/12/2023 19:53

parksandrecs · 02/12/2023 19:50

Please could Israel stop the killing and land invasions in the West Bank? Thanks awfully for being so open about your support of Israel's flouting of international law

And what.. all live happily ever after?
Or wait for another mass killing from hamas?

You can try and insult me all you want, but I'm a realist not living in lala land

parksandrecs · 02/12/2023 19:50

miniegg3 · 02/12/2023 19:46

What do you suggest?

It's was against terrorists, war in never pleasant. I think people forget its happening all over, not just in gaza.

Please could Israel stop the killing and land invasions in the West Bank? Thanks awfully for being so open about your support of Israel's flouting of international law

parksandrecs · 02/12/2023 19:49

Israel has broken international law for years.

Hamas has no right to break international law.

Neither does Israel

parksandrecs · 02/12/2023 19:47

Or that the IDF have been doing it for years without condemnation?

miniegg3 · 02/12/2023 19:46

OuiOuiKitty · 02/12/2023 19:41

Not many people are that open about supporting the mass killing of civilians, the killing of 1 in every 200 children in Gaza, the killing of aid workers and medics on duty, the statvation of millions. Most talk in circles around it and pretend that they care that children are being hurt. I admire your honesty if nothing else.

What do you suggest?

It's was against terrorists, war in never pleasant. I think people forget its happening all over, not just in gaza.

parksandrecs · 02/12/2023 19:46

The reality is that the IDF have been killing children for years. Which is disgusting.

On October 2023 Hamas did the same. Which is equally disgusting.

That doesn't make it OK for what the IDF have been doing, and are now doing to a greater extent.

miniegg3 · 02/12/2023 19:45

beigecartoon · 02/12/2023 19:40

The question was, do you think israel’s genocidal rhetoric, i.e. stating they want to wipe out all palestinians and take all their land (not just nuke them) is ok?

how is their expression of genocidal intent ok yet Hamas saying the same thing not ok?

i’m not saying either is ok but you ignore Israeli govt wants to wipe out all of Palestine. It changes how we see the situation.

Well I haven't seen those tweets so I can't comment on them. If it's exactly as you say, then no of course not. Getting rid of hamas and gaza being able to rebuild, with hopefully a rational government, using funds to build a nice place for them to live rather than spending money on weapons and war, would be what I want.
Unfortunately hamas started all this destruction in october

parksandrecs · 02/12/2023 19:43

Well, Hamas is a terrorist organisation

Israel is a state that should have higher standard of behaviour

Just as the UK government had no excuse for using the tactics of the IRA

OuiOuiKitty · 02/12/2023 19:41

miniegg3 · 02/12/2023 19:37

Oh for gods sake..

Do I think they should nuke gaza? No obviously not!

Do I think there's a solution other than what they're doing now, no.

Not many people are that open about supporting the mass killing of civilians, the killing of 1 in every 200 children in Gaza, the killing of aid workers and medics on duty, the statvation of millions. Most talk in circles around it and pretend that they care that children are being hurt. I admire your honesty if nothing else.

beigecartoon · 02/12/2023 19:40

The question was, do you think israel’s genocidal rhetoric, i.e. stating they want to wipe out all palestinians and take all their land (not just nuke them) is ok?

how is their expression of genocidal intent ok yet Hamas saying the same thing not ok?

i’m not saying either is ok but you ignore Israeli govt wants to wipe out all of Palestine. It changes how we see the situation.

ChickHenLittle · 02/12/2023 19:39

Do I think there's a solution other than what they're doing now, no.

🤦🏽‍♀️ Still derailing a thread about a child who was shot in cold blood by supporting further deaths. Despicable.

miniegg3 · 02/12/2023 19:37

Oh for gods sake..

Do I think they should nuke gaza? No obviously not!

Do I think there's a solution other than what they're doing now, no.

beigecartoon · 02/12/2023 19:34

@miniegg3 if you answer my question, I will answer yours.

miniegg3 · 02/12/2023 19:32

So obviously it's a fake screenshot then 🙈 I can't upload videos on here..
So are you saying its acceptable that hamas intend to kill all Jews?
And you're saying that the IDF should do nothing in return?
There will never be peace under hamas rule because they don't want a ceasefire and the don't want a 2 state solution!

What do people actually suggest could work?

ChickHenLittle · 02/12/2023 19:28

It's no big surprise that Hamas are not seeking peace.

beigecartoon · 02/12/2023 19:28

@miniegg3 even if these screenshots represent the truth (hard to say from a screenshot) Israel are no better. They repeatedly call for end of Palestine via genocidal tweets, maps showing no Palestine, one minister even suggesting it could be nuked the other week. Do you think this is acceptable?

miniegg3 · 02/12/2023 19:27

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IDF shot a 9 year old boy
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IDF shot a 9 year old boy