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JanewaysBun · 29/11/2023 17:27

Poor wee boy, under 1s will be particularly vunerable during this time and I wondered why he wasn't amongst those released.

ThisIsntThe80sPat · 29/11/2023 17:10

My sons are 3 and a half years old, and 10 months old. My youngest even resembles Kfir. I think that's why these boys have been particularly on my mind throughout this whole horrible conflict.
As soon as I read they'd been "transferred", I had a feeling it wasn't good and Hamas were trying to deflect from themselves. It's heartbreaking. Ten months old.

ChalkWitch · 29/11/2023 16:46

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BlowDryRat · 29/11/2023 16:45

The BBC has reported this too and says that the Israeli government is checking Hamas' claim that he, his brother and mother are dead. I wondered why they hadn't been released yet. Awful, awful news and I really hope it isn't true and another group has got them somewhere.

Finteq · 29/11/2023 16:41

I don't know what happened.

I hope baby Kfir is OK. But obviously it's suspicious that he hasn't been released.

EsmaCannonball · 29/11/2023 16:36

Israel is still revising the amount of people who died on October 7th and discovering that people they thought kidnapped were in fact killed. Hamas, on the other hand, seem to count quicker than Rain Man and yet people take those casualty figures as gospel.

jolaylasofia · 29/11/2023 16:35

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Finteq · 29/11/2023 16:23

eardefender · 29/11/2023 16:14

How could they have allowed them to die. Hamas are subhuman. Bullshit they died in bombing, why wait until now to make this story up. This is unforgivable and they are such cowards they blame Israel.
The only reason any hostages are being released is due to Israeli military pressure on Hamas. Hamas needed a break that's why they are returning the hostages, not because they care about aid coming in for their own people or saving the hostages lives.
They will try and spin it to blame Israel and all the jew haters will join in but the fact is this entire war was created by Hamas and they love Chaos.

The same way all the other civilians were ' allowed' to die.

It's not out of the realms of possibility Israel killed multiple of their own citizens. And could continue doing in their pursuit of Hamas.

OuiOuiKitty · 29/11/2023 16:18

HeidiInTheBigCity · 29/11/2023 15:11

Every semi-decent human will hope this isn't true - I certainly do!

That said, hopes aside, it does seem plausible! If you have seen the pictures of the devadtastating destruction of Gaza, you will easily believe that any hostages kept there will have been hit alongside everyone else if they happened to be located in the wrong place at the wrong time.

This war must really stop! There are far, far too many dead children - little Kfir being one of them, with literally thousands of others sharing his (alleged, so far) fate. We can't allow for them to keep on dying because of what adults do to each other.

I agree, I hope mum and children are found safely. With 1 out of every 200 children dead and 1 out of every 100 injured, it was clear that the Israeli bombardment was putting the lives of everyone in Gaza in grave danger. Unfortunately, whatever wrath Israel decided to wreak upon the citizens of Gaza be it starvation, lack of power, lack of medical care, lack of safety etc those same things were going to affect the hostages too. Hopefully, this pause will end in a ceasefire and some agreement for lasting peace for everyone.

eardefender · 29/11/2023 16:14

How could they have allowed them to die. Hamas are subhuman. Bullshit they died in bombing, why wait until now to make this story up. This is unforgivable and they are such cowards they blame Israel.
The only reason any hostages are being released is due to Israeli military pressure on Hamas. Hamas needed a break that's why they are returning the hostages, not because they care about aid coming in for their own people or saving the hostages lives.
They will try and spin it to blame Israel and all the jew haters will join in but the fact is this entire war was created by Hamas and they love Chaos.

EsmaCannonball · 29/11/2023 16:06

ChalkWitch · 29/11/2023 15:35

I started to be extremely concerned for Kfir when Hamas said they handed him over to PIJ so couldn’t send him home. Alarm bells started ringing-a child that young is too high profile to admit to killing after the 7th. Easier to blame an Israeli air strike right? Fits the poor oppressed ‘freedom fighter’s’ rhetoric. Except we weren’t born yesterday and no one in their right mind trusts a word they say.

I did think that, when he wasn't one of the returned hostages, Hamas might have already killed him, maybe on the 7th, and have invented the PIJ story. Now they've come up with this very convenient, for them, tale.

ChalkWitch · 29/11/2023 15:35

I started to be extremely concerned for Kfir when Hamas said they handed him over to PIJ so couldn’t send him home. Alarm bells started ringing-a child that young is too high profile to admit to killing after the 7th. Easier to blame an Israeli air strike right? Fits the poor oppressed ‘freedom fighter’s’ rhetoric. Except we weren’t born yesterday and no one in their right mind trusts a word they say.

ProvincialLady1 · 29/11/2023 15:15

Terrible if true, but the word of Hamas is essentially worthless so doesn't really tell us anything. Must be beyond terrible for their family to hear though.

ChalkWitch · 29/11/2023 15:14

Depdawg · 29/11/2023 14:59

I suppose this will go the same way
As the supposed Israel hospital
Bomb.

Indeed it will.

ChalkWitch · 29/11/2023 15:13

How terribly convenient for Hamas…

HeidiInTheBigCity · 29/11/2023 15:11

Every semi-decent human will hope this isn't true - I certainly do!

That said, hopes aside, it does seem plausible! If you have seen the pictures of the devadtastating destruction of Gaza, you will easily believe that any hostages kept there will have been hit alongside everyone else if they happened to be located in the wrong place at the wrong time.

This war must really stop! There are far, far too many dead children - little Kfir being one of them, with literally thousands of others sharing his (alleged, so far) fate. We can't allow for them to keep on dying because of what adults do to each other.

Startyabastard · 29/11/2023 15:10

I've been thinking about that little guy. Devastating. Also devastating that they need a safe room in their house.

Depdawg · 29/11/2023 14:59

I suppose this will go the same way
As the supposed Israel hospital
Bomb.

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ShirleyPhallus · 29/11/2023 14:58

My gosh, how I hope this isn’t true

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