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To wonder how people justify the west Bank settlements

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Pizfufffff · 29/11/2023 09:54

I am not an expert on the Israel Palestine issue. I did do my dissertation on the legalities of expansion of Israeli settlements under international law years ago so I have some knowledge of the issue. I have always wondered how people justify the expansion of settlements in the West Bank. This is not to cause an issue or start an argument. I'm genuinely really interested in hearing opposing views.

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HappierTimesAhead · 29/11/2023 10:31

Personally I do not think there is any justification. That is why it is internationally recognised as occupation.

HappierTimesAhead · 29/11/2023 10:27

hydriotaphia · 29/11/2023 10:25

Because this is a UK based site and 99% of people in the UK don't know much about this issue (me included), and of the 1% that do not all will be supportive of settlements? Why don't you try to read some Israeli views on the topic?

You have no idea about what knowledge people who use mumsnet have on this issue. The OP obviously knows a lot and uses mumsnet! And she/he can ask the question on here if they want to!

KatBurglar · 29/11/2023 10:26

I think they are indefensible. They are an illegal occupation. I don’t know any Jewish people outside of Israel who support them.

hydriotaphia · 29/11/2023 10:25

Because this is a UK based site and 99% of people in the UK don't know much about this issue (me included), and of the 1% that do not all will be supportive of settlements? Why don't you try to read some Israeli views on the topic?

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Pizfufffff · 29/11/2023 10:22

hydriotaphia · 29/11/2023 10:18

Er surely if you have researched this issue you know that Israel considers its own borders to have been expanded in the 6 day war. So it justifies occupying these territories because it regards them as part of it. Tactically the reason it expanded is to create a buffer zone from which rockets can't be launched into Israel. Not saying I agree with these reasons. If you're interested in this issue, mumsnet is a weird place to do research on it tbh.

Why? There are lots of intelligent people on here. I'm not doing serious academic research. I'm asking day to day people's views and justifications, as these points of view do not come across much in the literature.

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hydriotaphia · 29/11/2023 10:18

Er surely if you have researched this issue you know that Israel considers its own borders to have been expanded in the 6 day war. So it justifies occupying these territories because it regards them as part of it. Tactically the reason it expanded is to create a buffer zone from which rockets can't be launched into Israel. Not saying I agree with these reasons. If you're interested in this issue, mumsnet is a weird place to do research on it tbh.

MrsSkylerWhite · 29/11/2023 10:12

They’re outrageous.

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Pizfufffff · 29/11/2023 10:11

PurpleChrayne · 29/11/2023 10:08

Surely if you've done a dissertation about it, you have the resources to do some research of your own.

Settlements are highly disputed within Israel. My Israeli husband is firmly against them, and used to go on a lot of protests when he was living there. However, his right-wing cousin is a settler himself.

I do have the resources but aside from academic and legal arguments I am genuinely interested in what day to day normal people think, which is why I asked on here. Your response was interesting to me so thank you.

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PurpleChrayne · 29/11/2023 10:08

Surely if you've done a dissertation about it, you have the resources to do some research of your own.

Settlements are highly disputed within Israel. My Israeli husband is firmly against them, and used to go on a lot of protests when he was living there. However, his right-wing cousin is a settler himself.

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Pizfufffff · 29/11/2023 09:58

VickyEadieofThigh · 29/11/2023 09:56

YouYou'assuming others know as much as you do about it.

I think I was just interested in peoples moral justifications for them. I personally find it indefensible and having gone through countless literature, court cases etc I cannot see any justification myself but I am aware that some people support the expansion of West Bank settlements, I was wondering how and why

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VickyEadieofThigh · 29/11/2023 09:56

YouYou'assuming others know as much as you do about it.

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