Just sick

@Livinginanotherworld some serious batshittery on this thread.

Christ !! where do we start start with this one.

100% this. But finally the world is waking up.

Are you seriously trying to deflect blame to the Red Cross? Wow.

@AllWeWantToDo I cannot see it anywhere bar twitter (unverified ) and it's mentioned in an Arabic newspaper who actually talk about the Red Cross not getting involved after being asked to step in.

And Netanyahu can't wait till the fighting starts again. He can't wait. There hasn't been enough Palestinian blood spilled yet. Not nearly enough. And his government are behind him, pushing him on.

@ssd what would you have done after 7/10 then? If you were in charge of Israel's response?

@OuiOuiKitty the only article I have about that is in an Arabic newspaper. They also wrote that they (the hospital) informed the Red Cross and they left them. So where is your anger at the Red Cross (if this is indeed true)

So the killing of over 13,000 people is justified?

Keep talking. No one is convinced.

Has it been verified? I'm hoping it isn't true. How anyone could leave babies in incubators to die is something I can't get my head around , especially as they are supposedly not terrorists

@Locknkey I think you mean palpable.

I don't agree with everything the Israeli government puts out anymore than I like the racist anti immigrant stuff the Tory government spews out.

And the thread you are on about was specifically about a named child that has died.

it's almost as if people don't care to remember or note as relevant the many thousands of innocent Palestinians killed or imprisoned, tortured by IDF prior to 7th October. As if they just don't care, or want to think about it, because they are Palestinian. [NB this does not excuse the actions of Hamas.]

If Hamas had not committed their atrocities on October 7th we'd not be having this discussion. Blame Hamas. What were the Israelis expected to do?. Lie back and take it.

I don't think it is. What Israel is doing is not 'protecting' anyone either yet people keep repeating it. Killing civilians doesn't protect anyone, no matter who is doing it. How can people believe that leaving little babies to die alone in a hospital is protecting anyone? How can people believe that leaving children to starve is 'protecting' anyone? Fuck knows, but they appear to.

61 children murdered in the west bank since oct 7th. Not even killed in the bombings.

Call that a decent government?

Because they are also racist. If you watch the interviews with Israeli officals they almost let their true colours come out when they make mistakes and say there are no civilians, no innocents, kill them all, quoting the old testament.

Then they back track, but everything is recorded.

On this thread, they will start the whataboutory, but on a thread they start you better not dare mention a Palestinians death, how could you! This is not about the Palestinians!

The anger is palatable.

then you must also agree that Hamas had a right to kill 900 civilians to protect Palestinians that Israel has been murdering all year long

This statement must surely be a definition of insanity.

No-one, no-one, no-one could argue that Hamas was trying to protect anyone with that attack. Not only did the torture and murder Israelis, they instigated an inevitable retribution against Palestinian civilians which they have applauded as ‘martyrdom’ .

I dont know what people mean when they say 'how could the world sit and watch?'

I should caveat the above by being clear in saying that I do not support Hamas nor do i completely disagree that Israel have to do something. I’m just not quite understanding some of the rhetoric.

Do any pro Israel posters on any of these threads accept that Israel is targeting and murdering civilians and that this is bad?

Or is that only a bad thing to do when the victims are Israeli?

Two thread, not every.

I do need a lie down, I'm pregnant and have seen my worst nightmare.

I want answers as to why they were left to die there.

I think you need a reality check if you can't take someone posting facts and just want to post on all the threads projecting your hate.

Why did hamas carry out such a devastating attack

This is disgusting. You are here absolving Hamas of responsibility for Oct 7th and blaming Israeli Jews for the torture, rape and murder committed against them.

I have woken up alright. I’ve woken up to people like you. People who have so lost their moral compass, so lost sight of the humanity of all humans, that they observe a mass atrocity and still side with the murderers and blame the victims simply based on the race or nationality of the victims.

You need to stop and reflect on who are the people throughout history that aligns you with.

I would like to, as sensitively as possible, ask 3 questions to those of you who think that Israel’s response is justified:

1. what impact do you think the last 75 years of occupation has had on the people of Gaza?
2. I understand that Israel at one point in recent history supported Hamas? Why?
3. if Hamas goal is to end all Jews, why have they not just killed the hostages? And why do you think they are only asking to exchange them for prisoners who are young, woman or children?

I know OP sick to the stomach...never ending genocide and they get away with everything....

All the posters going on about how awful and racist Hamas are (absolutely agreed) but conveniently ignoring that the Israeli govt put out a multitude of genocidal and racist statements against Palestinians on a regular basis.