“Pause” ends tomorrow. Anyone else filled with dread ?

I see it on this site - trying to define all people from Gaza as Hamas in order to justify their genocide.

I have noticed several posts trying to claim that the crimes of October 7 were perpetrated by the general population of Gaza rather than Hamas. It doesn’t take a genius to work out the agenda behind that reasoning.

It is really disturbing. It's being pushed more and more. I see it on this site - trying to define all people from Gaza as Hamas in order to justify their genocide.
I think of Zombie written in response to the killing of two children and Sunday Bloody Sunday U2's song a call for an end to it all.
I think how all my contemporaries felt , how we wanted peace, to work with each other and how I still can't watch films of torture and violence. I think about how I didn't want to hear another friend talk of their father shot in front of them and his blood spattered over him. His body spat on. I look at the Israeli young instagrammers and this No 1 song calling for more violence and I despise them.

Humanity at its finest! A horrible example of how the dehumanisation and fear of an out group can lead to cruelty. They probably think this song demonstrates strength, I think it demonstrates a group of people who are thinking with their primitive brains, along with the help of biased media.

This is what scares me. I hoped (and wanted to believe) that most Israeli civilians were against the war. Songs like this becoming the most popular on various platforms doesn't fill me with confidence

I would imagine most Israeli citizens are in favour of what ever gets rid of Hamas. They are probably rather afraid of them now.
However these songs are, as a pp said, inflammatory. Are there are no laws against hate speech in Israel?

In addition, Dammi Falastini was briefly removed from Spotfiy for "inciting against Israel", but reinstated after widespread uproar (and an apology from Spotify). The song doesn't incite hatred at all... so why is this song inciting hatred against Palestinians allowed to stay? It should be banned from streaming platforms, it's impossible to pretend it calls for anything but the eradication of Palestinians.

This is what scares me. I hoped (and wanted to believe) that most Israeli civilians were against the war. Songs like this becoming the most popular on various platforms doesn't fill me with confidence.

It's quite disturbing that much of the inflammatory hate speech aswell as inciting violence in this song against ordinary Palestininas including children has become so popular and loved rather than condemned.

And much worse
But the full article is here

https://www.timesofisrael.com/hip-hop-war-anthem-reaches-number-one-in-israel/

@SharonEllis i don't know who the PP is talking about but I have just done a quick Google about the song that was mentioned and it's correct. This is from the times of Israel

Ness lends a feminine counterpoint to Stilla’s bravado, but her verses are equally militant. After complimenting all the men in uniform for being handsome, she raps, “For mom and dad, all my friends are at the front, for grandma and grandma, let’s write names on the bombs, for the children of the Gaza envelope.”

Israeli legal and human rights groups also said that Israel is committing the “crime of apartheid” in the occupied territories in breach of international laws .

The UN also said that Israel may be committing the war crime of collective punishment through its siege of the Gaza territory. The International Committee of the Red Cross agreed.
“The instructions issued by the Israeli authorities for the population of Gaza City to immediately leave their homes, coupled with the complete siege, explicitly denying them food, water and electricity are not compatible with international humanitarian law,” it said.

Unfortunately Israel doesn’t recognise the authority of the International Criminal Court in The Hague and the US support Israel in that they can’t be investigated for war crimes.

Yes that is correct. I only sadly found out more about the work and efforts they have been doing after the attack. Again as I said, mainstream news doesn't generally report things like this.
And this sadly makes their deaths all the more tragic

Agree with @Anotherdayanotherdiet Israel needs to be held fully accountable for its actions. Hopefully the responsible government and IDF officials will also be punished through the justice system, but that remains to be seen.

have a word with Hamas. Don't blame Israel.

Israel is accountable for its actions. It can’t blame everything on Hamas.

Very easy to google Lowkey's antisemitism. Well documented & noone takes him seriously as a source.

Including so many of those killed on October 7th. They attacked kibbutzim - they were not in any way military targets. Many peace activists lived there & were included among the dead, and the hostages.

And there's plenty more examples of Palestinians and Israelis who have been good and kind and treated each other well. But we don't hear much about that because it doesn't make great catchy headlines

And from the hundreds of Israelis who took part in burning down the villages in this rampage with the military simply allowing it were imprisoned?
How many of them are in prison right now?
Or did the Jerusalem Court order that most are set free?
And they continue to live very normal lives with no consequences for their actions
If you want to talk about complicity or civilian violence and the consequences or shall we say absence of consequences then there's hundreds of more examples of that

Out of the 2.3 million of the population of Gaza you have seen maybe a thousand at the most and therefore convinced that most or if not most then alot of normal Gazans have attacked Israelis
That's not even 1% or 0.5% of the population

Let's not be so naive here that only Gazan civilians hate Israelis
There's indiscriminate hate like this on both sides
Have you already forgotten the pogrom of the Palestinians done by normal Israelis this year in the Huwara camp whilst the IDF simply stood on the side
Where hundreds of normal Israelis took revenge on innocent people in a terrible night of burning down homes and violence in response to the killing of an Israeli

And that's what it was. A pogrom. By Israelis on Palestinians

Why are you so keen to constantly point out that some Palestininans don't like the Israelis or attacked when it goes both ways.

There's plenty more examples. But it doesn't mean that all Israelis hate and want to hurt Palestininas or vice versa

You know there's a multitude of reasons and issues behind this conflict. It's not so black and white

Normal people who went through fence and joined in
Normal people who kept hostages and returned them when they tried to escape.
Normal people who crowd round buses of children being released jeering and screaming obscenities.
Not just Hamas. (Or other terrorist groups)
Normal people.

Don't forget the normal people who formed a mob and beat a 12 year old hostage

Desmond tutu

You think that people that vote in and support the genocidal aims of a facist, racist government are not actively joining in? The people who are cheering as bombs drop or who are telling their government to not bother protecting civillians are not actively joining in(but Palestinians who jeer at hostages are)?

So as long as you turn your back to horrific behaviour it's fine, it's all good. You know that people are out to take kids away in the middle of the night and torture them, you could stop it by not turning your back but it's fine, it's all good so long as it's just your democratically elected governments army doing it! You know that people are stealing homes and land with the support of the democratically elected government but close your eyes and it never happened!

Morality at it's finest in action here huh?

@OuiOuiKitty 'watching' not the same as actively joining in.
Not the same at all.