“Pause” ends tomorrow. Anyone else filled with dread ?

Oh it was seen OK:

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/article/holocaust-adolf-hitler-history-genocide-denial

@Jupitersstorm Israel dropped leaflets telling people to move to Rafah where they promptly dropped bombs on them. One of the details I remember reading was about a dead toddler whose feet were sticking out of the rubble.

Many modern day human rights organisations were founded specifically because of the holocaust, that tragedy which was successfully carried out in the depths of Eastern Europe with not Instagram in sight happened because it could not be seen. The creeping inertia of nationalism that slowly ramped up until the worst catastrophe of civilian death occurred.

We say never again, and it means never again for ANYONE.

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2022/02/israels-system-of-apartheid/

I don't need a random link to help me out thanks.

Am Yisrael Chai.

I was highlighting the posters support of a white, Christian population that faced invasion and occupation over their vilification of a Arabic Islamic one when also faced with occupation and invasion...specifically these two examples are of largely ethnically homogenous makeup.

I believe the Israeli state, it's close alliance with the west, it's colonial nature, it's attempts at advertising its self as the homeland for diaspora when many of their ethnicity is white and whose ancestry is European and it's deeply racist views of the Palestinians which has allowed some of the worst examples of dehumanising language towards a population I have ever seen and it's policy of ethnic cleansing makes it a pretty good candidate for drawing deep parallels with a 'white' supremacist nation though.

@Jupitersstorm here is a short history of human rights to help you out with that one:

http://hrlibrary.umn.edu/edumat/hreduseries/hereandnow/Part-1/short-history.htm

Everyone is entitled to their opinions and frankly where were the human rights organisations during the Holocaust?
I stand with Israel - now, then and forever. No Israel - no Jewish people - something that Hamas wants.

And it won't get it thankfully.

It would appear that some people believe that Israel are nothing more than puppets of Hamas. They seem to think Israel has no self determination at all. I don't know why they aren't looking for this to be investigated if they truly believe that Hamas control the Israeli government and the Israeli government have no choice in their actions.

It is Hamas' choice to have purposely goaded Israel into conflict, make sure their civilians are in the line of fire, hide tunnels and artillery in tunnels in under hospitals and homes,break ceasefires,keep hostages,do unspeakable things to other humans,vow destruction of the state of Israel.

I firmly believe that Israel are actually doing more than every other country in the circumstances to preserve life - both now and for the future. The world stood by and watched the destruction of seven million Jews. Israel are not going to stand by now. Hamas knew this and made it happen. Not enough people around the world are marching against Hamas the perpetrators.

My heart breaks for Israel and Palestinians.

It is the festival of Hanukkah. May the festival of lights shine a light upon the darkness of conflict and pray it ends soon.

How kind of them! And even then 15k civilians have died.

are you telling me these people care about innocent citizens regardless of their religion and nationality ?

https://www.wionews.com/world/israel-hamas-war-social-media-scrambles-to-scrub-spoof-videos-mocking-palestinians-651829/amp

@Jupitersstorm it is a choice of Israel's to confine the millions of population into an area the size of Heathrow airport. It is a choice of Israel's to prevent adequate aid, water and food coming into Gaza and to prevent humanitarian aid being administered. It is a choice of Israel's to persistently bomb "safe routes" and "safe areas" thus preventing limiting of civilian casualties. It is a choice of Israel's to prevent safe evacuation of sick patients at hospitals, such as the babies that died because they were prevented from being transported out, even though with Israel's collaboration this would have been possible. All of these are cruel and unnecessary choices Israel has taken that are war crimes and completely unnecessary with regards to eliminating Hamas.

This. It is terribly sad for Gaza but there is no choice but to eliminate terrorists theat.
Every other country would be doing the same and Israel drops leaflets, flares and phone calls and warnings before their sweeps to eradicate the Hamas pestilence.

@FreedomOfSpeechBelongToEveryone do you personally know any Israeli's or is all your info from X and tik tok?

More like Israeli goverment and a lot of it’s people too.
Have you really not seen, heard or read how they talk?
Leaves your blood cold.

What you mean is that western values and white victims are more import than Arab ones

@Wale90 you do release that most people in Israel aren't 'white victims' don't you?

I mean come on - tunnels dug under civilians' homes! Poor Gazans.
"'To be honest it's quite upsetting to see but the responsibility for that is Hamas. They planned the battlefield by digging tunnels underneath the civilian population."
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12836551/Its-apocalyptic-Hamas-dug-tunnels-civilians-Inside-Israeli-artillery-unit-hitting-Gaza-Strip-IDF-close-terror-leaders-home.html

You're aware that the Ukraine is Gaza and Israel is Russia in the comparison you make.

Russia / Israel = invaders, oppressors, occupiers
Ukraine / Gaza = resistance, occupied

What you mean is that western values and white victims are more import than Arab ones.

not really. There is people on mn who will tell you that Palestinians deserve this because they all are terrorists or support terrorists and they voted them 17 years ago. There is also people that will tell you they stand with Israel (forgetting about the citizens from the other country). So not only Hamas.

I stand with innocent citizens who are dying day after day regardless of their nationality or religion

The only people who would actually disagree with this statement in this situation are Hamas.

Thank you @Ixxy1980

Clearly you don’t know the history of America’s shit show of a ‘war on terror’ if you’re actually referencing it as an example of war being done for the greater good!

Millions of deaths, millions of people displaced, countless buildings and infrastructure destroyed, trillions of dollars spent, agricultural land ruined, orphans, illness, disease, malnutrition. And after 20 years and a shambles of a withdrawal, the Taliban, the regime they toppled, is back in power again! Yes congratulations America on a job well done!

Oh and they never did find those weapons of mass destruction did they?

You might want to rethink using America’s war as a shining example.

If anything, it shows that we need to find another way, rather than just trying to pulverise people into submission.

Good comparison

when 9/11. Happened USA / uk and Spain went together to Iraq in the search of war weapons. I was in Spain at the time. I did go to demonstrations against this war.

Years later and thousand of innocent lives have been taken and guess what. There were no mass destruction weapons.

so maybe , on this one the comparison is not the best unless you’re trying to say this war is wrong and shouldn’t be happening.

“War is awful but has to be done at times for the greater good”

this is a selfish statement. It might be for your good. Not for Palestinians good. Your life is not worth more than anyone who is dying because of this war.

“I stand with Israel on this. “

I stand with innocent citizens who are dying day after day regardless of their nationality or religion.

When 9/11 happened (the equivalent of what Hamas did to Israel) the US took action. Unless democracies take action in these kinds of situations we will be walked all over. I stand with Israel on this. War is awful but has to be done at times for the greater good, to preserve the rights of us all to our democracies and rights. in a sense Israel and Ukraine are the front line of Western rights at present and if they we will be next with dictatorships with Putin's and North Korea's and theocracies like Iran and Saudi and Afghanistan imposed on us.