Page 18 | “Pause” ends tomorrow. Anyone else filled with dread ?

Desertrose2023 · 2023-11-27T15:28:16+00:00

Just that really. I’ve felt such relief the past couple of days that my phone won’t be filled with a constant stream of murdered Palestinian kids and wailing parents. That all ends tomorrow and I have such a sense of foreboding even though I’m safe and comfortable thousands of miles away. I can’t begin to imagine the dread the Palestinians in Gaza must be feeling tonight knowing their genocide resumes tomorrow. When will it end 😞

Katharineblum · 27/11/2023 19:43

@Desertrose2023 Maybe stop streaming horribly toxic intrusive war porn onto your phone. Why are posters investing so much emotional energy on this when it clearly is damaging to their mental health ? Can’t sleep at night, well switch off the Hamas news feed.

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Desertrose2023 · 27/11/2023 19:19

Depdawg · 27/11/2023 18:26

As you did like a bad penny on a peaceful thread.

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Only I don’t deny antisemitism exists.
some posters continue to swear blind Israel has no choice but to slaughter thousands of children on a daily basis. It’s mind blowing.

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Depdawg · 27/11/2023 18:26

Desertrose2023 · 27/11/2023 16:55

I see the genocide deniers have showed up. Lovely.

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As you did like a bad penny on a peaceful thread.

ChickHenLittle · 27/11/2023 18:19

WatTyler · 27/11/2023 16:49

Hamas will not be allowed to extend the temporary ceasefire indefinitely by releasing a couple of kidnap victims every few days. In the end, it is more important for Israel to destroy the psychopathic rabble of Hamas than it is to save every last hostage; they cannot allow Hamas time to regroup and re-arm as they prepare for the next outrage.

Note the only genocide being attempted is that of the Jews, by Hamas. Commenters who claim otherwise are merely anti-Semitic propagandists.

Pssst - that doesn't work anymore. Wrongly labelling anyone who disagrees with you as antisemitic trivialises the real and unacceptable issue of antisemitism.

I am concerned too, OP. I see photos of Gazans returning home and worry that they're going back simply to be bombarded and shot at again in the coming days.

Chaitales · 27/11/2023 17:16

But during the pause, please be careful not to smile or have a sweet to celebrate a loved one coming back from being an Israeili hostage (the ones noone likes to talk about, bc, um, awkward) because Israel, in its moral and democratic state, said smiling is criminal. Please don't argue with me otherwise you are an anti semite.

thelonemommabear · 27/11/2023 17:15

@Depdawg

Not insinuating but just find it strange their names haven't been released and yet they were taken together.

LimeCheesecake · 27/11/2023 17:11

Just coming back on to say it’s been extended. For all the press comments, it does look like conversations are happening.

Ohlalalalala · 27/11/2023 17:10

The truce has been extended by 2 days. Let's hope and pray for a ceasefire.

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Desertrose2023 · 27/11/2023 17:09

MercanDede · 27/11/2023 17:03

Experts are saying that it is impossible to destroy Hamas through total war.

Israel's plan to eradicate Hamas is an impossible goal, Hamas expert says
NOVEMBER 20, 20235:06 AM ET
HEARD ON MORNING EDITION

It’s a 6 minute report and the link goes to a transcript.
https://www.npr.org/2023/11/20/1214109088/israels-plan-to-eradicate-hamas-is-an-impossible-goal-hamas-expert-says

Of course it is impossible and Israel know this very well. It’s just a land grab and their policy of “mowing the lawn” ie population reduction. They have created a whole new generation of people who have nothing to lose and will grow up hell bent on trying to harm Israel. The orphans, the maimed, the traumatized, the mums and dads carrying their kids in plastic bags. I’m sure the pro- Israeli posters will be on here asking us to condemn what this generation do in 10 years and acting incredulous that it’s happened.

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MercanDede · 27/11/2023 17:05

Depdawg · 27/11/2023 16:51

Your sleep will be aided by unclutching those pearls. I do find it makes for a more conducive sleeping position.

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I’m only surprised you did not add in advice to eat some cake too.

MercanDede · 27/11/2023 17:03

Experts are saying that it is impossible to destroy Hamas through total war.

Israel's plan to eradicate Hamas is an impossible goal, Hamas expert says
NOVEMBER 20, 20235:06 AM ET
HEARD ON MORNING EDITION

It’s a 6 minute report and the link goes to a transcript.
https://www.npr.org/2023/11/20/1214109088/israels-plan-to-eradicate-hamas-is-an-impossible-goal-hamas-expert-says

Morning Edition for November 20, 2023

Hear the Morning Edition program for November 20, 2023

https://www.npr.org/programs/morning-edition/2023/11/20/1214107458/morning-edition-for-november-20-2023

Chaitales · 27/11/2023 17:01

Desertrose2023 · 27/11/2023 16:55

I see the genocide deniers have showed up. Lovely.

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Not just deny it but then appropriate it as happening to them

20k people have been killed and deaths live streamed but calling it a genocide is being hysterical. But hey use the word genocide as happening to Israel, a colonial, illegal and oppressive power, otherwise you are AN ANTI SEMITE

Make it make sense

Chaitales · 27/11/2023 16:58

WatTyler · 27/11/2023 16:49

Hamas will not be allowed to extend the temporary ceasefire indefinitely by releasing a couple of kidnap victims every few days. In the end, it is more important for Israel to destroy the psychopathic rabble of Hamas than it is to save every last hostage; they cannot allow Hamas time to regroup and re-arm as they prepare for the next outrage.

Note the only genocide being attempted is that of the Jews, by Hamas. Commenters who claim otherwise are merely anti-Semitic propagandists.

And the psychopathic rabble of Netanyahu and his cronies, amen.

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Desertrose2023 · 27/11/2023 16:55

WatTyler · 27/11/2023 16:49

Hamas will not be allowed to extend the temporary ceasefire indefinitely by releasing a couple of kidnap victims every few days. In the end, it is more important for Israel to destroy the psychopathic rabble of Hamas than it is to save every last hostage; they cannot allow Hamas time to regroup and re-arm as they prepare for the next outrage.

Note the only genocide being attempted is that of the Jews, by Hamas. Commenters who claim otherwise are merely anti-Semitic propagandists.

I see the genocide deniers have showed up. Lovely.

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Depdawg · 27/11/2023 16:51

MercanDede · 27/11/2023 15:30

I am full of dread as well. Might need a bit of help to get to sleep tonight.

Your sleep will be aided by unclutching those pearls. I do find it makes for a more conducive sleeping position.

WatTyler · 27/11/2023 16:49

Hamas will not be allowed to extend the temporary ceasefire indefinitely by releasing a couple of kidnap victims every few days. In the end, it is more important for Israel to destroy the psychopathic rabble of Hamas than it is to save every last hostage; they cannot allow Hamas time to regroup and re-arm as they prepare for the next outrage.

Note the only genocide being attempted is that of the Jews, by Hamas. Commenters who claim otherwise are merely anti-Semitic propagandists.

Lookingatthesunset · 27/11/2023 16:46

No, I'm not filled with dread. I am safe and far away, not involved. I would feel a complete fraud to be "filled with dread"!! It is not my dread to feel!!!

I feel huge sympathy for all of those who rightfully do feel full of dread, because they don't know what atrocities and suffering they may be facing.

Plus I feel sympathy for all of those afflicted in this conflict. I don't consider there to be any hierarchy of victims, as some posters apparently do.

You're just as maimed, just as dead, just as bereaved, just as captured, whichever 'side' of the situation you are on...

LittleMsTellTheTruth · 27/11/2023 16:39

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Cattiwampus · 27/11/2023 16:39

Easterissland, you think it makes sense because you care about the 20K.
Do you think that Netanyahu feels the same way?

Wale90 · 27/11/2023 16:35

I'm so fearful of a harsher pushback from Israel once the truce is over.

Not forgetting they have continued to cause suffering in the West Bank throughout

Depdawg · 27/11/2023 16:30

thelonemommabear · 27/11/2023 16:28

@Itsaharddlife

Hamas said she couldn't be located but the little girl (she was held with her Mum and Emily Hand) said she was with her mum until recently

Also find it very odd they the name of the girl and her family who were taken with Emily (whose house she went to sleepover at) have not been released

What are you insinuating?

LimeCheesecake · 27/11/2023 16:29

I think if there are more hostages being released, the pause will have to be extended, politically they can’t be seen to not be doing anything possible to get the hostages back - particularly the children. Sadly I think @usererror99 might be right about the ease of getting the hostages rounded up and handed over.

thelonemommabear · 27/11/2023 16:28

@Itsaharddlife

Hamas said she couldn't be located but the little girl (she was held with her Mum and Emily Hand) said she was with her mum until recently

Also find it very odd they the name of the girl and her family who were taken with Emily (whose house she went to sleepover at) have not been released

Chaitales · 27/11/2023 16:27

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Itsaharddlife · 27/11/2023 16:26

usererror99 · 27/11/2023 16:20

The ceasefire will be extended if they continue with the hostage release - problem is Hamas themselves admit they don't where many are - several different terrorist groups crossed into Israel and took hostages. They've already breached terms by releasing one girl without her mother saying they didn't know where she was and yet the child herself said she was with her mother until 2 days before. They aren't in control - seems like the hostages released so far have been kept in relatively ok conditions by Hamas - bet the same can't be said for the young women held by other groups....and I should think Hamas knows when the truth is known for sure the bombs will fall

What happened to the little girls mum? Is she still being held hostage by hamas or are they not sure who she's with?