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Conflict in the Middle East

Mainly about Al Shifa [bombed front of hospital 3]

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Efacsen · 26/11/2023 18:18

Continuation from thread 3

The on-going dire situation at the hospital

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Iwasafool · 30/11/2023 21:09

Parkingt111 · 30/11/2023 19:16

@Iwasafool yes
In the second clip which Is from doctors without borders
It's a compilation of different doctors talking about how they had to evacuate the hospitals
The doctor who talks about how they had to leave an nasr mentions in there that they informed the IDF of the five remaining babies and requested that they be transferred to Al shifa hospital
These babies were on oxygen and they couldn't take them with them

Thanks, I understood the doctors were ordered, I meant whoever gave that order, presumably an IDF officer is responsible and should be tried for a war crime.

Parkingt111 · 30/11/2023 20:49

Hey @Toothyfruity when I click on the link it says page not found

Toothyfruity · 30/11/2023 20:15

https://www.thejournal.ie/five-premature-babies-have-been-found-dead-in-gaza-

It's been reported on Irish mainstream online media service Journal.ie though it seems that the story came from AFP.

I had really hoped that this was fake news. I'm absolutely livid and horrified and genuinely struggling with this one.

stormy4319trevor · 30/11/2023 19:30

@Parkingt111 I feel that way. But it's outrageously cruel/negligent and will be hard to downplay if reported in major news outlets.

Parkingt111 · 30/11/2023 19:28

If anyone else comes across anything else about it from reputable sources please do share

Efacsen · 30/11/2023 19:27

@Parkingt111 IDK the Guardian clearly do a trawl thro' MSF, Red Cross etc twitter a couple of times a day - so maybe later on?

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Parkingt111 · 30/11/2023 19:23

@stormy4319trevor unfortunately I don't think they will
It will probably just be considered another tragedy of war

stormy4319trevor · 30/11/2023 19:19

Appalling. I wonder if political leaders will mention it at all.

Parkingt111 · 30/11/2023 19:19

@Efacsen now the ICRC have brought it up do you think MSM will report it

Parkingt111 · 30/11/2023 19:16

@Iwasafool yes
In the second clip which Is from doctors without borders
It's a compilation of different doctors talking about how they had to evacuate the hospitals
The doctor who talks about how they had to leave an nasr mentions in there that they informed the IDF of the five remaining babies and requested that they be transferred to Al shifa hospital
These babies were on oxygen and they couldn't take them with them

Iwasafool · 30/11/2023 19:12

Parkingt111 · 30/11/2023 19:02

I doubt it will happen but I am hoping there is an investigation done into this
How was this allowed to happen
The doctors were forced to evacuate the hospital by the IDF leaving behind 5 of the most critically ill babies and they were then just left to die.
What a tragedy
Surely something like this can't be considered collateral damage

Surely it has to be a war crime. Whoever ordered those doctors to leave are responsible even if it is a cockup that they weren't moved. If you leave vulnerable babies like that you have to make sure they are safe.

queenofarles · 30/11/2023 19:11

Alnasir was Gazas only children hospital, and I can’t remember why it was evacuated ,
Surly they’ve seen the babies in the NICU .

Parkingt111 · 30/11/2023 19:02

I doubt it will happen but I am hoping there is an investigation done into this
How was this allowed to happen
The doctors were forced to evacuate the hospital by the IDF leaving behind 5 of the most critically ill babies and they were then just left to die.
What a tragedy
Surely something like this can't be considered collateral damage

Parkingt111 · 30/11/2023 18:55

@Efacsen I was sceptical too which is why I didn't comment much on it until today when I saw both MSF and ICRC post on it

Parkingt111 · 30/11/2023 18:55

The ICRC deny they were involved or told to move the babies
And the doctor also says they asked the IDF to move the 5 remaining babies who were on oxygen

It's absolutely tragic
Those poor poor babies
I won't post the video here. I'm shocked that something as big as this has recieved so little coverage in MSM

Efacsen · 30/11/2023 18:54

@Parkingt111 oh no what a mess - apologies for being sceptical about it all

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Parkingt111 · 30/11/2023 18:51

@Efacsen doctors without borders put this up today
At approx time 3.40 of the clip the doctor from a nasr hospital talks about how they were made to evacuate
They took all patients except 5 babies who were on oxygen and asked the IDF to move them to Al shifa hospital
Something has clearly gone wrong and the babies were not moved as a few days later when the truce started and people want inside An nasr hospital they saw the 5 babies who had died and whose bodies were decomposing

https://twitter.com/MSF/status/1730254358103949531?t=N92T1GcF8ToqQwqviEfRvQ&s=19

https://twitter.com/MSF/status/1730254358103949531?s=19&t=N92T1GcF8ToqQwqviEfRvQ

Parkingt111 · 30/11/2023 18:42

@Toothyfruity this was just posted today by the ICRC

Parkingt111 · 30/11/2023 18:41

The ICRC just put up this

We have seen the footage circulating of deceased newborn babies and claims suggesting that ICRC left or abandoned these babies at the Al Nasr Hospital in northern Gaza.

This is false.

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queenofarles · 30/11/2023 14:17

it’s on TRT , I couldn’t watch the video , it’s beyond gory ,it says the babies are still attached to monitors and cannulas .

OuiOuiKitty · 30/11/2023 13:56

A good news story, lovely to see so many people volunteering at such a difficult time. Hopefully they will be able to make it some way functional again.

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Toothyfruity · 30/11/2023 11:53

Parkingt111 · 30/11/2023 10:21

@Toothyfruity I don't trust the daily mail but if its true then its a horrendous situation and there needs to be an investigation in how it came about
Those poor babies

No of course. I never read that dirty rag but when I searched for the story that was all that showed up for me.

Efacsen · 30/11/2023 10:58

Think I'm correct in saying some of the humanitarian aid is for heating and also warm clothes but UN was saying today that they have to prioritise delivery of medicines/ food/water so it's maybe not reaching people

Part of the desperation to go back to their homes in northern gaza is to get warm clothing/blankets etc - the not being allowed in the sea [what are these poor people allowed to do] was to do with people trying to get round the IDF checkpoints on the road by going along the beach/in the sea in Khan Younis

Remember a few years ago seeing people in a Syrian refugee camp in the snow - it's such a miserable existence being a refugee

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stormy4319trevor · 30/11/2023 10:47

I'm glad day time weather is not cold. Thanks for looking that up @Efacsen I think there's going to be a need to put up portacabins or something, but god knows how if they have to keep moving. G reported they are only allowed to move south now and are not allowed in the sea.

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