Mainly about Al Shifa [bombed front of hospital 3]

@Parkingt111 Exactly.

@parksandrecs I agree about the Rafah crossing. You should have seen the amount of posters at the start of the war who would come on to say stop blaming Israel and tell Egypt to let aid in
And each time someone would point out that actually not only has Israel bombed the crossing, they now control what can come in and how much and when

@stormy4319trevor even if they did and managed to evacuate on time it's still pretty useless seeing as the places they are told to evacuate to are still being bombed aswell

Also... won't Hamas just move along with them?then what?

@parksandrecs I also don't know how it is Israel can control the Rafah crossing. I think it might have been part of some earlier agreement between Israel and Egypt. Like you, I don't know how the siege targeted Hamas either. I'd have thought they would have their own stock of supplies.

It's as we predicted:

The Guardian’s Emma Graham-Harrison and Jason Burke report:
Israel has started using its new grid system for evacuation warnings, which breaks Gaza down into more than 600 blocks, and can be accessed through a QR code on leaflets and social media posts.
It appears designed to allow the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) to try to shuffle civilians around in a shrinking battle space as they target Hamas fighters, by ordering them to leave areas that in some cases cover just a few blocks.
But on the ground, people said it had just added to their fear and confusion. After weeks of bombardment and blockades, most people have little access to electricity to charge phones and other devices, and even for those who can get online, the telecommunications system regularly collapses.
That means residents have no reliable way of accessing the map, the UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (Ocha) said.

I can't see why Israel banned the import through Rafah of food and water. They focussed on closing their right to close their border to Gaza as their national right (undisputed), and all the mainstream media failed to ask why they had the right of veto over the Rafah crossing given that they claimed to have no responsibility towards Gaza. Why would they have the right of veto over the crossing between Gaza and Egypt, if neither state was anything to do with them?

How could stopping food, water and medical supplies be targetted against Hamas? Surely having civilians dependent on international agencies for those supplies would undermine Hamas?

It's mind games, isn't it?

Like the earlier 'move to the South', and then the south was pounded as well.

Just PR to pretend the IDF are 'moral' and care about Palestinians, unlike Hamas who see Israelis as sub-human. Whereas they are as bad as each other

QR code system not doing great either. One block was asked to move to a different block after already being displaced from the north
They got to the other block and the bombs there started, on houses where displaced civilians were sheltering

From most reports I have seen the civilians are fed up with moving around like it's some sort of hunger games. Some have just accepted that they will die regardless

@Efacsen yes I wonder who leaked it? It only came put recently so managed to keep it on the low for quite awhile

And yes I doubt they are happy it's come out in the open
It does sort of add up to why there's huge amounts of civilian infrastructure destroyed including houses

@Efacsen it seems like Israel has finally responded to the criticism of using AI to select targets. I still can't fathom that it sounds insane, almost dystopian

Destruction not precision comes to mind

@EasterIssland yes
I don't think an investigation will be done and I doubt they will even get an apology let alone an explanation

Thanks @Parkingt111 I saw it in their Spanish account and didn’t have time to link the English version. It’s clear there has been many attacks directed that shouldn’t have happened.

I have linked the full article for anybody who wants to read it

On 18 November 2023, a Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF) evacuation convoy came under fire in Gaza City, Palestine. Two people were killed in what immediately appeared as a deliberate attack against clearly identified MSF cars. Both people killed were family members of MSF staff; one was also a volunteer supporting MSF medical teams at Al-Shifa hospital. Two weeks later, after collecting the testimonies of MSF staff present that day in the convoy, MSF considers that all elements point to the responsibility of the Israeli army for this attack.

Do you all remember when the MSF (doctors without borders) convoy came under attack by Israeli snipers killing two members. They said their ambulance and vehicles were clearly marked and are saying they want an explanation why they were attacked (against international law) and they also want an independent investigation done into it

https://twitter.com/MSF/status/1730985676944855334?t=ElU7Pf3Q7EWi8QXg1nBmbA&s=19

The US have also repeatedly said they are against the increase of illegal settlements that have been steadily on the rise over the years especially under Netanyahu but those words have had little effect

@parksandrecs I agree. Its a shame it took so long but I suppose its a start. The Global attention this war has recieved means these issues are finally being discussed to some extent.

Thanks for that update. Another quite vocal stance by the US.
Iv seen reports of a buffer zone being made but I can't see how that can happen without making Gaza smaller than it already is
It would also contradict 'redrawing of the borders of Gaza'

US Vice President Kamala Harris said that “under no circumstances will the United States permit the forced relocation of Palestinians from Gaza or the West Bank, the besiegement of Gaza, or the redrawing of the borders of Gaza.”

Well, it is a start to admit that illegal Israeli settlers are attacking the legitimate civilian population in the West Bank... I mean, it shouldn't have taken so long and so many thousands of dead for the USA to recognise that, but it's a step in the right direction.

I wish Israel (and Palestine) peace and security. I don't think you get peace and security by killing people, you simply create more violence.

@Efacsen yes I haven't seen a response
Iv just seen on sky of a parade of Yemeni Houthis
What are the chances of a wider de-escalation in the region? That would be terrible