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Mainly about Al Shifa [bombed front of hospital 3]

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Efacsen · 26/11/2023 18:18

Continuation from thread 3

The on-going dire situation at the hospital

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Efacsen · 13/12/2023 09:03

@Silence1 agree about the ultrasound scanner so cruel

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Efacsen · 13/12/2023 09:02

Only 11 partially functioning hospitals today

And this from Al Ahli the only hospital in N Gaza

The UN has described the last "barely functioning" hospital in northern Gaza as a "humanitarian disaster zone" - with corridors overflowing with patients and doctors treating people on the floors.

Al-Ahli Hospital in Gaza City is severely short-staffed, with over 200 patients but only enough resources to support 40, said Dr Richard Peeperkorn, the World Health

Organisation's representative in Gaza said in a briefing with reporters.
As they are unable to perform vascular surgeries, staff have taken to amputating people's limbs "as the last resort to save lives", he said.

‘Humanitarian disaster zone’: Gaza hospital capacity decimated – WHO

The last barely functioning hospital in northern Gaza is a “humanitarian disaster zone”, the UN World Health Organization (WHO) said on Tuesday, highlighting the disastrous consequences of ongoing Israeli bombardment for critically ill and injured civi...

https://news.un.org/en/story/2023/12/1144682

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Parkingt111 · 12/12/2023 20:03

This part is not even about the Israeli crossing but the Egyptian one and the level of control Israel has on it

Any person who wants to pass the border needs Israeli permission and there is a complex mechanism for approval which means it can take one to three days for people who need evacuating in hours.
“Until yesterday 430 people have been evacuated out of the 49,600 people who have been injured despite the fact a number of countries including Egypt Qatar and Turkey have said they would take injured Palestinians.”

Silence1 · 12/12/2023 19:32

That article about China saying enough is enough is interesting because they (and others) actually visited and saw first hand

Also it says Israel banned an ultrasound machine from being allowed into Gaza which ,bearing in mind the article I posted above of difficulties for pregnant women, is brutal.

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Efacsen · 12/12/2023 16:52

This is about medical evacuations abroad

Palestinians who have been injured during the war in Gaza are facing potentially fatal delays both in getting treatment within the coastal strip as well as in being evacuated abroad, caused by Israeli bureaucracy and military checkpoints, the UN and aid organisations say.

............... an Israeli NGO – Physicians for Human Rights Israel – said on Tuesday that only 400 Palestinians had been evacuated abroad, despite a number of countries being willing to receive the wounded.

Guardian

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Silence1 · 12/12/2023 12:47

I was so naïve and over estimated Israel. I thought when they got control of Al shifa Hospital, it would be allowed to get back and running in some form.
I didn't realise their plan was actually to destroy all the medical facilities and leave them non functioning. The targets are the hospitals not Hamas
They even bombed a medical faculty in a University the other day.

"The situation in Kamal Adwan Hospital is catastrophic, Doctors Without Borders, known by its French initials MSF, has said, as the Israeli army continues its raid of the medical facility.
“We are outraged by what’s going on,” Leo Cans, MSF head of mission for Palestine, told Al Jazeera. “It’s the same scenario as al-Shifa Hospital repeating in other hospitals again and again.”
Cans said MSF doctors and health practitioners across Gaza were operating in conditions comparable to World War I, which took place over a century ago.
“We are operating on the floor. Children are arriving with very bad injuries, and [surgeons] have to do multiple operations but there are no more beds,” he said.
Hospitals have been forced to discharge patients they would not normally have due to the lack of space. Cans estimated 60 percent of the wounds get infected, becoming potentially life-threatening.
“This is totally inhumane, it’s totally unacceptable,” he said."

Parkingt111 · 12/12/2023 11:23

@Efacsen it looks really bad
im thinking sky, BBC etc will be reporting on it soon

Molymoly · 12/12/2023 11:21

Just switched on Al Jazeera and snipers are firing into Al Awda hospital. WTF is wrong with them?

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Efacsen · 12/12/2023 11:00

Seems like the siege at Al Awda is over with IDF storming the building - truly dreadful report on AJ which I'll post if verified

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Thereissomelight · 12/12/2023 10:44

You do feel that you have to bear witness to the suffering. You feel you can’t just go Christmas shopping while that’s going on. But the truth is, you missing out on enjoying your life won’t help them.
What will help is sending money to charities if you can afford it and continuing to contact your politicians about finding alternatives to mass baby killing x

Toothyfruity · 12/12/2023 10:41

If only not seeing the images would mean the children weren't being injured and murdered.

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Efacsen · 12/12/2023 10:39

Only 11 'partially functioning' hospitals now

WHO: Gaza only has 11 partially functioning hospitals remaining out of 36

A World Health Organization (WHO) official said on Tuesday that only 11, or less than a third, of Gaza’s hospitals remain partially functional and pleaded for them to remain intact.

“In just 66 days the health system has gone from 36 functional hospitals to 11 partially functional hospitals – one in the north and 10 in the south,” Reuters reports Richard Peeperkorn, WHO representative for the Palestinian Territory, told a UN press briefing by videolink from Gaza.

“We cannot afford to lose any health care facilities or hospitals,” he said. “We hope, we plea that this will not happen.”

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Efacsen · 12/12/2023 10:35

Give yourself a break @Toothyfruity from mumsnet and avoid distressing images as much as you can

It's not good for anyone except the folks who enjoy the mud-slinging and name-calling and doesn't benefit anyone

Take care

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Toothyfruity · 12/12/2023 10:24

Fuck I'm really struggling with some of the images coming out of Gaza today.

I know that this is a pointless post but I am holding back tears at work.

I can't bear to see children blown to bits any more.

Mumsnet is like an alternate universe (I am not in the UK, where I live pretty much understands that what is happening in Gaza is outrageous) at the moment. People squabbling about nonsense on the ME board while children continue to be bombarded and maimed and injured.

There's no justification for it. None.

Thereissomelight · 12/12/2023 09:56

I hope the field Hospital is up and running soon, not just for the patients of course but for all the displaced medical and nursing staff who have lost their hospitals and must be desperately worried about becoming quickly de-skilled unless they can get back in there and do their jobs.

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Efacsen · 12/12/2023 09:53

Seen a few reports of patients going out of Gaza for medical treatment in Egypt, Turkey, UAE, Qatar etc don't think it gets much publicity slow but steady medical evacuations are ongoing of small nos of patients

It's not just the injured either - Turkey is taking 1500 cancer patients for treatment

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Parkingt111 · 12/12/2023 09:37

No I didn't realise that either.
I'm not sure how long it will take to set up the field hospital especially with the lack of fuel. It didn't give a timeline but I hope its soon as it is desperately needed
I haven't seen any updates of further civilians who have been injured being evacuated out of Gaza either

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Efacsen · 12/12/2023 08:05

BBC spoke to staff at Al Awda yesterday - Israeli snipers are firing into the hospital and wounded an MSF surgeon there

“Let us be clear: Al-Awda is a functioning hospital with medical staff and many patients in vulnerable condition. Targeting medical workers as they care for their patients is utterly reprehensible, utterly inhumane.”

''MSF also said Al-Awda and other hospitals in the north have sustained substantial damage and supplies are running low, further compromising doctors' capacity to treat their patients

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Efacsen · 12/12/2023 07:56

@Parkingt111 thanks for the news about the new field hospital in Rafah

I didn't realise until a couple of days ago that more than 90% of UNWRAs staff - doctors nurses teachers engineers etc etc - are now IDP and living in UNWRA shelters until they posted a tweet thanking those who had continued to work despite their own difficult personal circumstances. Not sure why I'd not worked this out for myself

So maybe that goes some way to explaining why the field hospital can be staffed from Al Quuds with the general movement of medical staff southwards and very few remaining in the north

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Parkingt111 · 11/12/2023 22:58

I have seen reports that volunteers are helping in setting up the ground work for the Qatari sponsored field hospital In Rafah
So that is something positive atleast

The prcs put up a tweet about it