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Mainly about Al Shifa [bombed front of hospital 3]

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Efacsen · 26/11/2023 18:18

Continuation from thread 3

The on-going dire situation at the hospital

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Parkingt111 · 25/12/2023 16:01

I have seen the devastation after the massacre of the Al maghazi refugee camp over a hundred dead and hundreds more injured
The roads leading out of the camp have also been destroyed
As Al maghazi is in Central Gaza I am wondering which hospitals that are part functioning the wounded will be taken to?

Parkingt111 · 25/12/2023 15:59

Red Crescent accuses Israel of destroying ambulances in raidAn aid organisation has accused Israeli soldiers of raiding an ambulance centre in northern Gaza and destroying the ambulances.
The Palestinian Red Crescent (PRCS) said Israeli troops forced its teams to evacuate the Jabalia facility.

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Efacsen · 25/12/2023 13:33

Back delivering aid to Al Shifa and other hospitals

The World Health Organization said it led missions to barely functioning hospitals in northern Gaza at the weekend, describing growing desperation and starving people stripping an aid truck of supplies, AFP reports.

The UN health agency and its partners delivered aid, including fuel, to the Al-Shifa hospital, once Gaza’s biggest and most advanced medical facility, WHO chief Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said late Sunday on X, formerly Twitter.

What the participants in the 23 December mission witnessed was “rising desperation due to acute hunger,” Tedros said.

“Partners demand immediate scale-up of food and water to ensure population health and stability.”

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barkingmel · 24/12/2023 15:04

EasterIssland · 23/12/2023 10:36

I’ve been on hols this week and took a break from mn and social media so apologies if this has been discussed already.

is it a war crime to attack those that are carrying white flags?

I was deeply shocked at that one. Yes it is a war crime to attack those carrying white flags. Pregnant women in labour, just so sad.

Parkingt111 · 24/12/2023 14:20

Efacsen · 22/12/2023 19:33

PRCS raising the alarm about intense shelling at front of their hospital Al Amal in Khan Younis

It all has a grim inevitability now

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Just seen that a 13 year old boy was shot inside the building via Israeli drone. His name was Amir. The family thought they would be safe there

This was on the PRCS page

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C1PK1sxNcQS/?igsh=MjM0N2Q2NDBjYg==

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https://www.instagram.com/reel/C1PK1sxNcQS?igsh=MjM0N2Q2NDBjYg%3D%3D

EasterIssland · 23/12/2023 10:36

I’ve been on hols this week and took a break from mn and social media so apologies if this has been discussed already.

is it a war crime to attack those that are carrying white flags?

Mainly about Al Shifa [bombed front of hospital 3]
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Efacsen · 22/12/2023 19:33

PRCS raising the alarm about intense shelling at front of their hospital Al Amal in Khan Younis

It all has a grim inevitability now

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Efacsen · 22/12/2023 13:19

@Parkingt111 maybe the IDF will say they weren't there? And then we'll all be happy

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Parkingt111 · 22/12/2023 12:28

@Efacsen i have just seen on sky about the ambulance staff who said they were tortured. Another worrying pattern that has been emerging of many who have said this.

They have asked the IDF for comment but not exactly like they will say yes we did

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Efacsen · 22/12/2023 08:46

Latest on PRSC ambulance depot in Jabaliya

IDF have released a number of their paramedics, volunteers and women who were arrested yesterday -some of them were “beaten and tortured”

,Israeli forces continue to detain eight medical staff.

“The occupation soldiers destroyed the central radio communication device and destroyed all ambulances present in the branch,” PRCS said.

Just to add that bombing is continuing to kill and injure people nearby so it's not as though the paramedics and ambulances aren't needed

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Efacsen · 22/12/2023 08:34

@Parkingt111 the evidence put forward to support the destruction of Al Shifa as Hamas HQ never came up to the expectations raised by Israel - 2 days ago another 'Command Centre' just a mile away from Al Shifa was shown to Israeli journalists - later downgraded to a network of tunnels for senior Hamas figures to move between home, office and 5 nearby hospitals

Hospital premises clearly have played some role tho' whether that justifies the destruction of almost all hospital based healthcare provision seems very questionable

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Parkingt111 · 21/12/2023 20:20

Interesting piece in the Washington Post on whether the attack on Al shifa hospitalwas justified and did the horrendous attack that didn't reveal anything of the magnitude the IDF claimed about it was just setting a precedent to attack other hospitals

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/12/21/al-shifa-hospital-gaza-hamas-israel/

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Efacsen · 21/12/2023 18:49

@Parkingt111 yes worst possible outcome tho' increasingly familiar pattern
and the 'execution' of those 11 men greatly in need of investigation

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Parkingt111 · 21/12/2023 18:41

It was after the raid of Al Awda hospital and is still being investigated

https://news.sky.com/story/israel-gaza-latest-hamas-war-updates-sky-news-blog-12978800?postid=6956484#liveblog-body

Parkingt111 · 21/12/2023 18:39

@Efacsen that's probably the worst outcome from what we could have hoped
I am seeing sky and bbc reporting some very concerning developments about 11 men executed in cold blood that the UN is asking to investigate

barkingmel · 21/12/2023 18:35

@Efacsen truly awful. an ambulance station FGS.

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Efacsen · 21/12/2023 18:33

PRCS ambulance station raided by IDF about 2 hours ago - men taken away to unknown location, women and children trapped inside with all communications cut off

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barkingmel · 21/12/2023 10:45

@Parkingt111 so sad and this kind of stuff needs shouting from the rooftops.

Parkingt111 · 21/12/2023 10:43

The above sadly just says it all

Parkingt111 · 21/12/2023 10:42

Since Israel's military assault began on 7 October, at least 300 healthcare workers have been reported killed. This is more than the total number of health worker deaths recorded across all countries in conflict last year, and in any single year since 2016.

Parkingt111 · 21/12/2023 10:39

WHO have said there are no functioning hospitals in the north again

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Efacsen · 21/12/2023 09:18

PRCS ambulance depot in Jabaliya remains under siege with IDF shelling and sniper fire

WHO visited Al Shifa and Al Ahili again yesterday trying to keep what little remains supported/alive with hope to restore in future

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Thereissomelight · 21/12/2023 07:59

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Australian MSF doctor confirming unacceptable numbers of dead and permanently maimed children in Gaza and targeting of hospitals and MSF ambulances. She says MSF has been accused of not being neutral by reporting this.
More attempts at censorship imo.

Gaza children being killed or mutilated in ‘very extreme’ numbers, Australian doctor says

Reporting what is being directly witnessed by MSF healthcare workers does not indicate loss of neutrality, Natalie Thurtle stresses

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/gaza-children-being-killed-mutilated-060856517.html

Jupitersstorm · 20/12/2023 23:05

Thereissomelight · 20/12/2023 16:31

@floodlightonwhatisright
Still doesn’t give anyone the right to kill children and sick people and doctors and nurses, mate.

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Nobody has the right to do that, but see, I don't think this is deliberately happening.

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Efacsen · 20/12/2023 22:08

I've not watched the Youtube or read the DM article but I have slogged my way thro' the New York Post piece which I'm assuming is where the DM scraped the copy

I'd really like to read an account in a 'proper newspaper' like the Times, Guardian or Telegraph, or by the BBC or Channel 4 but wonder if that will happen because it's unverifiable testimony and possibly/likely obtained by torture.

Really fear that the accounts in the bottom-feeding rags will become the accepted un-questioned 'truth' as to why Israel has systematically removed almost all healthcare from the civilian population of Gaza

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