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Conflict in the Middle East

Mainly about Al Shifa [bombed front of hospital 3]

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Efacsen · 26/11/2023 18:18

Continuation from thread 3

The on-going dire situation at the hospital

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Efacsen · 03/01/2024 08:13

@FOJN IDK aren't these 'emergency powers' integral to the role of the POTUS - can't imagine that there's a way to get rid of this sort of presidential privilege or that there are moves afoot to do so? But maybe I'm wrong

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stormy4319trevor · 02/01/2024 23:54

I don't know @FOJN but I think there must be some sort of safeguard against a President doing his own thing without consultations. @EasterIssland Maybe that's one reason Biden is using his emergency powers, so nobody can block him.

EasterIssland · 02/01/2024 23:44

stormy4319trevor · 02/01/2024 23:38

Bernie Sanders is calling on Congress to block further funding - so somebody in American politics does care, at least.

Funding was blocked by republicans few weeks ago as well (the reason behind it was that money was better spent blocking the border with Mexico)

FOJN · 02/01/2024 23:43

stormy4319trevor · 02/01/2024 23:38

Bernie Sanders is calling on Congress to block further funding - so somebody in American politics does care, at least.

Blinken has been using "emergency powers" to bypass Congress and send arms to Israel. Is there a mechanism whereby Congress can block or revoke those powers?

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/12/30/biden-administration-bypasses-congress-on-weapon-sales-to-israel

stormy4319trevor · 02/01/2024 23:38

Bernie Sanders is calling on Congress to block further funding - so somebody in American politics does care, at least.

stormy4319trevor · 02/01/2024 23:28

Me neither @Parkingt111 I feel like I'm in some nightmare dimension where even children can be treated without mercy. I am afraid at the direction humanity is taking. It isn't that it's new, there has always been cruelty and suffering. It's that we can all see it, live and in our faces - and can do nothing about it.

Parkingt111 · 02/01/2024 23:21

@stormy4319trevor who knows at this point?
I certainly don't

stormy4319trevor · 02/01/2024 23:16

The emblem was on the roof. I don't know if any reason was given for striking this hospital. I can't understand how the US is still backing and funding this approach.

Parkingt111 · 02/01/2024 23:14

This is the tweet with a video of the place of the attack where the UN member is speaking
You can actually see baby nappies in the background

https://twitter.com/UNOCHA/status/1742276915707211811?t=FYW7A1C8a7ToX7lDzJ2eXw&s=19

https://twitter.com/UNOCHA/status/1742276915707211811?s=19&t=FYW7A1C8a7ToX7lDzJ2eXw

Parkingt111 · 02/01/2024 23:11

@stormy4319trevor 4 other people were killed and I don't know if it includes the mother. If she is alive then I can't imagine how she will overcome this.
Only alive for 5 days the poor little soul

Toothyfruity · 02/01/2024 23:07

Terrible. Beyond sad. Any time I share my thoughts on people who still argue against a ceasefire I get deleted so I won't.

stormy4319trevor · 02/01/2024 23:06

It's so terrible @Parkingt111 Too many children suffering, I can't understand how it can go on either.

Parkingt111 · 02/01/2024 23:04

I just can't fathom that. Only 5 days alive in this world, to be killed by a bomb in a space that should be protected
What a cruel way to die

Parkingt111 · 02/01/2024 23:03

A 5 day old baby killed whilst sheltering at Amal hospital today. No safe spaces In Gaza. As she rightly says, "the world should be ashamed"

A United Nations humanitarian official has visited the Al-Amal hospital in Gaza, site of an Israeli missile attack earlier in which five people were reported dead, including a five-day-old baby.
“The world should be absolutely horrified. The world should be absolutely outraged a child was killed here today, four more people were killed here today, in a space that should be safe,” Gemma Connell,

Parkingt111 · 01/01/2024 11:10

@Efacsen thank you for that and yes same neither have I
Over the new years and festive period I have seen a decrease in reporting on MSM so maybe from tomorrow onwards we might hear more

Efacsen · 01/01/2024 08:29

Not a great deal being reported about the state of any of the hospitals except the below. Have seen a few pics of patients being treated out of tents using torches in ?northern gaza but no further explanation

World Health Organization representatives visited Nasser Medical Complex in Khan Younis on Sunday to assess the needs of the overwhelmed health facility, WHO chief Tedros Ghebreyesus said.

In a tweet on Sunday, Tedros added that the Nasser Medical Complex is one of only two key functioning hospitals in southern Gaza that is able to provide medical care for wounded and other patients.

Gaza | World news | The Guardian

https://www.theguardian.com/world/gaza

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Efacsen · 30/12/2023 08:35

Airstrikes yesterday near the Kuwaiti Hospital in Rafah - nowhere is safe and no healthcare is being protected

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Efacsen · 30/12/2023 08:24

As if it's not awful enough living in overcrowded inadequate conditions, in fear of bombardment, hungry and thirsty but to be ill as well with little or no health provision

These poor people

And agree with @Toothyfruity never let it be forgotten that this is all a deliberate manmade disaster

It's fully intended by the government of Israel planning to push most of the people of Gaza into Egypt

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Toothyfruity · 29/12/2023 21:01

My goodness. That's desperately hard but not surprising. I can't imagine how they're coping in such dire conditions. And all of this is man made and needn't have happened. Horrible.

Parkingt111 · 29/12/2023 20:47

Some latest stats which are very worrying regarding the spread of illnesses and diseases from the WHO

  • Nearly 180,000 people suffering upper respiratory infections;
  • 136,400 cases of diarrhoea - half of these among children aged under five years old;
  • 55,400 cases of lice and scabies;
  • 5,330 cases of chickenpox;
  • 42,700 cases of skin rash, including 4,722 cases of impetigo;
  • 4,683 cases of Acute Jaundice Syndrome;
  • 126 cases of meningitis,
Parkingt111 · 29/12/2023 09:58

@Efacsen yes this is what is so worrying
That if professionals are treated In such a horrific way then how much those civilians be treated who nobody will account for

I am seeing testimonies of young children who have said the IDF raided their homes and shot their parents

Efacsen · 29/12/2023 09:43

@Parkingt111 it's absolutely appalling the way the paramedics were treated by the IDF - and these are the 'innocent' ones - not Hamas or Hamas sympathisers - just ordainary Palestinians doing an already difficult job

God only knows what is being done to the 8 others who haven't been released

Moral army - don't think so the more they tell us about themselves the lower they fall in my estimation

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Parkingt111 · 29/12/2023 09:32

They were hit in their head back and even private areas, one paramedic was hit so badly on his legs he will likely need a operation. You can hear the ambulance worker speaking here

https://twitter.com/PalestineRCS/status/1740632254806626402?t=khGAk20NIYVW6z7_tBkEOQ&s=19

https://twitter.com/PalestineRCS/status/1740632254806626402?s=19&t=khGAk20NIYVW6z7_tBkEOQ

Parkingt111 · 29/12/2023 09:29

More civilians near Al Amal hospital killed and more reports of ordinary people being stripped and tortured
Including ambulance staff
More dehumanising actions of the Palestinians from the IDF

Parkingt111 · 29/12/2023 09:27

Israeli shelling over two days near Al-Amal hospital in southern Gaza’s main city Khan Younis has killed 41 people, the Palestinian Red Crescent said on Thursday.
The casualties include “displaced persons seeking shelter” at Red Crescent premises, AFP reports that it said.
The Palestine Red Crescent Society has also issued a video interview with Mohammed Salah, who it says is a paramedic at their ambulance centre in the Jabaliya refugee camp. In the video he describes ambulance staff being made to undress and being beaten and interrogated by Israeli forces operating inside Gaza.

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