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Conflict in the Middle East

Mainly about Al Shifa [bombed front of hospital 3]

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Efacsen · 26/11/2023 18:18

Continuation from thread 3

The on-going dire situation at the hospital

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ScrollingLeaves · 02/05/2024 22:04

Very sad, and an irreplaceable loss.

I was wondering if when the Israeli authorities say hospitals were targeted by them because they were used by Hamas, do they really mean wounded Hamas fighters being treated in hospital beds? If so, wouldn’t that be no more than expected?

anotherlevel · 02/05/2024 21:34

@Parkingt111 was he the one from Germany? Such sad news either way. There's just no words.

Parkingt111 · 02/05/2024 20:21

The Palestinian Prisoners Association has called his death an assassination

The Palestinian health ministry said in a statement that Bursh’s death raised to 496 the number of medical sector workers who had been killed by Israel since Oct 7. It added that 1,500 others had been wounded while 309 had been arrested.

Parkingt111 · 02/05/2024 20:19

I heard the sad news today that one of Gaza's most prominent doctors has died whilst being held for the last four months in an Israeli prison.
Dr Adnan Al Bursh

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/prominent-gaza-doctor-dies-israeli-prison-2024-05-02/

EasterIssland · 27/04/2024 07:56

https://www.politico.com/newsletters/national-security-daily/2024/04/26/israel-investigate-what-00154651

Israel: ‘Investigate what?’

Scirocco · 27/04/2024 05:52

EasterIssland · 27/04/2024 00:10

I’m reading comments that organs might have been stolen from those buried near the hospital

There have been allegations of organ harvesting without consent made for decades. There was an interview around 2000 of an Israeli doctor who reported organs and tissues had been removed from dead Israelis and Palestinians without consent, although officials stated the practice had been discontinued by that time. I think it's a particularly sensitive concern given the importance of burying the whole person in both Judaism and Islam, the importance of consent for organ donation, and how close these allegations might be seen to blood libel accusations. Hopefully investigations can shed some light on what's happened.

EasterIssland · 27/04/2024 00:10

I’m reading comments that organs might have been stolen from those buried near the hospital

PeasfullPerson · 25/04/2024 16:49

This makes me so angry, such lack of respect for human life. Stick a label on someone, regardless of whether or not it’s the truth, and use that as an excuse to do what you want.

No wonder some people are so petrified. They think there are terrorists everywhere!

EasterIssland · 25/04/2024 16:16

Dulra · 25/04/2024 16:11

And how will we ever know? Corpses can't be arrested and interrogated. How convenient

First kill. Then ask. It feels this people were first arrested and then killed. If they thought they were terrorists they should bring them to court rather than kill them. But I guess every human is a terrorist for them. Even kids.

Dulra · 25/04/2024 16:11

EasterIssland · 25/04/2024 15:00

The corpses that have been found belonged to terrorists according to isrsel

kids? Terrorists
elderly? Terrorists
women? Terrorists
doctors ? Terrorists
https://twitter.com/muhammadshehad2/status/1783444199246856475

And how will we ever know? Corpses can't be arrested and interrogated. How convenient

EasterIssland · 25/04/2024 15:00

The corpses that have been found belonged to terrorists according to isrsel

kids? Terrorists
elderly? Terrorists
women? Terrorists
doctors ? Terrorists
https://twitter.com/muhammadshehad2/status/1783444199246856475

https://twitter.com/muhammadshehad2/status/1783444199246856475

EasterIssland · 23/04/2024 22:59

geoconfirmed acount on Twitter has explained why the bodies found I. The hospital story is misinformation. However , it seems it’s them spreading misinformation (I feel it’s not the first time they do it)
https://twitter.com/muhammadshehad2/status/1782815639117189213

https://twitter.com/muhammadshehad2/status/1782815639117189213

ScrollingLeaves · 23/04/2024 22:01

Scirocco · 23/04/2024 20:10

@ScrollingLeaves I do hope he and others in similar situations can heal in time. Recovering from the trauma of what you have had to do in combat situations is hard enough for people when they are able to rationalise to an extent that there was no alternative to their actions.

Yes, the soldiers too may fall victims of their own selves through the very things they do.

Parkingt111 · 23/04/2024 22:01

@ScrollingLeaves thank you

Parkingt111 · 23/04/2024 20:27

Is there a recorded link for it please?

Scirocco · 23/04/2024 20:10

@ScrollingLeaves I do hope he and others in similar situations can heal in time. Recovering from the trauma of what you have had to do in combat situations is hard enough for people when they are able to rationalise to an extent that there was no alternative to their actions.

ScrollingLeaves · 23/04/2024 19:48

Limesodaagain · 23/04/2024 19:36

Very moving ( and disturbing ) interview on channel 4 news with a soldier who recently served with the IDF .

Yes, I have just seen that too and agree. It was brave of him. They disguised his voice but I think some aspects could make him traceable.

I would urge people to watch if they can, it is both sobering and moving.

At the end he says something like: when you think of the horror of Oct 7, and the horror of what is now being done to the Palestinians, it is as though Hamas and Netanyahu are on the same side, with no hope for the future for either of our people.

He said he will have to live with what he has taken part in for the rest of his life.

There will be Channel 4 + 1 in 13 minutes.

Limesodaagain · 23/04/2024 19:36

Very moving ( and disturbing ) interview on channel 4 news with a soldier who recently served with the IDF .

Dulra · 23/04/2024 13:42

EasterIssland · 23/04/2024 13:40

From CNN

There were signs of field executions. We do not know if they were buried alive or executed. Most of the bodies are decomposed."

Horrific let's hope this can all be independently verified and investigated

EasterIssland · 23/04/2024 13:40

From CNN

There were signs of field executions. We do not know if they were buried alive or executed. Most of the bodies are decomposed."