Mainly about Al Shifa [bombed front of hospital 3]

I think that @EasterIssland pretty much sums it up there. I’d be interested to read more if anyone finds anything. I have to say I’m concerned that any evidence found will be used to try and justify actions that can never be excused.

I guess this was the bit that struck me the most

"Israeli forces found the tunnel under the medical center by following ducts that ran from rooftop air-conditioning units connected to the hospital’s electricity supply, the report said. The IDF also discovered the hospital’s water supply was connected to the tunnel."

The implication being that people at the hospital (although obviously not everyone) must have known, which is something I've seen continuously and vehemently denied on here previously. Admittedly that was a while ago as I've steered well clear of this thread and it's predecessors for a while.

I appreciate you explaining your position rather than going on the offensive though. Thank you.

I can’t currently find it anywhere neither. I think many of us will/wont believe this and at the same time we know the fact that Hamas hides in these tunnels and so (there are videos from them hiding in then). What we mainly criticise is the need of destroying the hospitals and kill doctors , civilians etc. whilst finding these tunnels is good , it’d be even better if
1 Hamas members were arrested

1. Their weapons retrieved
2. No hospitals and equipment was destroyed (I’ve seen A video about the way a hospital was left behind after idf left and there was no need for it … there were graffities , the ceiling and equipment broken )
3. No doctors , civilians killed

if the 4 from above happened then it’d be a success finding these tunnels. But it’s not.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/ny-times-tunnel-under-al-shifa-hospital-used-by-hamas-for-cover-weapons-storage/

I'm genuinely very stressed by the thought of the backlash I'm going to get for posting this so it's possible I won't be back to read any potential replies, but I think it's important to bear in mind that there does seem to be some truth behind what the IDF has been claiming. I can't access the New York Times article and I know a lot of you won't read anything from Israeli media unless it's Haaretz so maybe have a look yourselves and see if it's mentioned somewhere that you find more reliable.

I'm not making any kind of judgement about the IDFs actions at this or other hospitals. Obviously there have been far too many deaths and injuries as a result of it all. I'm just saying there seems to be some truth behind their claims about Hamas using the tunnels under the hospital.

https://www.instagram.com/p/C3JQVTTOCpT/?igsh=MWdzNW5xdHU2c2s3Mw==

Details of how Israel is torturing doctors they've kidnapped as we speak, including the director of al Shifa.

Urgent: Update regarding the detained teams from Al-Amal Hospital:
Israeli Occupation forces have arrested eight PRCS team members at Al-Amal Hospital, including four doctors, as well as four wounded individuals and five patients’ companions.

Occupation forces raided Al-Amal Hospital for approximately ten hours, during which they conducted a search of the hospital, damaged some equipment, furniture, and appliances, detained, interrogated, beat, and humiliated the teams, and prevented them and patients’ companions from drinking and using the bathroom.

The PRCS confirmed that the IDF did storm Al Amal hospital yesterday and have taken away some of their staff

When they aren’t just targeting journalists … they’re busy targeting doctors and nursers etc!

"Talking to a doctor inside Nasser Hospital, he said, no-one could get in or out because of Israeli snipers positioned around the hospital."

(1) Alex Crawford on X: "Talking to a doctor inside Nasser Hospital, he said, no-one could get in or out because of Israeli snipers positioned around the hospital #Gaza" / X (twitter.com)

I have lost count now on how many medics and healthcare workers have been killed in Gaza.
Also lost count on how many times hospitals have been attacked as for many hospitals there has been numerous attacks

Another paramedic murdered

The Palestine Red Crescent Society (PRCS) said a paramedic colleague, Mohammed Al-Omari, was killed, and two other paramedics were injured after Israeli occupation forces directly fired at them in Gaza City while they were transferring several wounded individuals from al-Ahli Baptist hospital in preparation for their transfer to hospitals in the south.
The PRCS have shared updates of the situation in Gaza on its X account. Another post by the humanitarian organisation said on Wednesday that two people had been injured at the PRCS al-Amal hospital, including one patient by the direct firing from the vehicles of Israeli forces positioned at the gate of the hospital in Khan Younis. “This comes amidst the ongoing siege and continuous targeting of the hospital for the seventeenth consecutive day,” said the PRCS

The state of a hospital after idf has left the building
https://twitter.com/AJEnglish/status/1754529319529976006

@Parkingt111 decent people can never understand what they're doing. It's beyond belief.

Below a message from the DG of the WHO.

I am lost for words at the continuous systematic attacks at the health care system in Gaza.

Another health care worker killed.
From the PRCS

Our colleague Hidaya Hamad, the Director of the Youth and Volunteers Department in Gaza, was killed due to the occupation's gunfire while she was present at the PRCS's headquarters in #KhanYunis.

I can't even imagine what that poor child was thinking. It's awful

I'm struggling with the thoughts of her being in the car all by herself with no help. It's so upsetting.

This is the harrowing moment recorded when her elder sister was on the phone call to PRCS before they lost contact with her. The team then spoke to 6 year old hind for 3 hours before they lost contact with her

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C2uLV8nqxC-/?igsh=MXN0dWFlcmMyb3ZjZA==

The two PRCS members who went to rescue the 6 year old girl Hind, who was trapped alone in her car after her family were killed, are still missing after 66 hours
PRCS lost contact with them a long time ago

66 hours have passed and the fate of our colleagues Yousef Zaino and Ahmad Al-Madhoun from the PRCS Ambulance Team who went out to rescue the 6-year-old Hind is still unknown.
🔊 We appeal to the international community to assist and intervene to protect civilians and health care and humanitarian workers.

Update on Al Amal hospital
Israeli spokesperson has denied they have stormed the hospital
The PRCS are maintaining that they have aswell as tents burned in the courtyard where displaced are sheltering

I’ve seen there is a thread about this topic in case anyone wants to join that one