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Mainly about Al Shifa [bombed front of hospital 3]

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Efacsen · 26/11/2023 18:18

Continuation from thread 3

The on-going dire situation at the hospital

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Parkingt111 · 17/02/2024 14:34

@Efacsen I believe that's a different doctor. This was Dr Ahmed Maghrabi but I don't think he has been taken thankfully.

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Efacsen · 17/02/2024 13:36

inkworks273 · 17/02/2024 13:33

I wonder if they grabbed it back once they stopped filming.

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IDK at Al Shifa they made a similar show but the items seen delivered allegedly didn't reach the patients in need - so who knows

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inkworks273 · 17/02/2024 13:33

Efacsen · 17/02/2024 13:14

IDF have supplied the hospital with water and baby milk and have thoughtfully filmed themselves and put it on twitter so we can all see

Also deja-vu from Al Shifa

I wonder if they grabbed it back once they stopped filming.

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Efacsen · 17/02/2024 13:14

IDF have supplied the hospital with water and baby milk and have thoughtfully filmed themselves and put it on twitter so we can all see

Also deja-vu from Al Shifa

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Efacsen · 17/02/2024 13:03

@Parkingt111 is this the same medic you were talking about yesterday?

''Doctor Haytham Ahmed has been taken from Nasser hospital by the Israeli forces''.

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inkworks273 · 17/02/2024 12:36

@HazelSheep I've watched videos of IDF soldiers who were absolutely consumed by the guilt of what they have done to Palestinians. I can only hope that the ones responsible for committing these atrocities suffer the same fate.

HazelSheep · 17/02/2024 12:30

inkworks273 · 17/02/2024 10:56

"I stopped keeping track of how many new orphans I had operated on. After surgery they would be filed somewhere in the hospital, I’m unsure of who will take care of them or how they will survive. On one occasion, a handful of children, all about ages 5 to 8, were carried to the emergency room by their parents. All had single sniper shots to the head. These families were returning to their homes in Khan Yunis, about 2.5 miles away from the hospital, after Israeli tanks had withdrawn. But the snipers apparently stayed behind. None of these children survived."

What goes through a snipers mind as he looks at a child through his rifle lens, lining it up to shoot them in the head? How does he justify it to himself? How do the people who support the IDF justify it to themselves? What absolute moral depravity.

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I was listening to Irish radio the other evening and they asked an Israeli spokesperson about an 80 year old man who had been shot to death by Israeli snipers while going to get food. They asked why this had happened, the spokesperson quick as a whip said 'maybe Hamas were standing behind him'. There is always an excuse and it is always accepted by Israels backers. They can act with total impunity and know it.

inkworks273 · 17/02/2024 10:56

"I stopped keeping track of how many new orphans I had operated on. After surgery they would be filed somewhere in the hospital, I’m unsure of who will take care of them or how they will survive. On one occasion, a handful of children, all about ages 5 to 8, were carried to the emergency room by their parents. All had single sniper shots to the head. These families were returning to their homes in Khan Yunis, about 2.5 miles away from the hospital, after Israeli tanks had withdrawn. But the snipers apparently stayed behind. None of these children survived."

What goes through a snipers mind as he looks at a child through his rifle lens, lining it up to shoot them in the head? How does he justify it to himself? How do the people who support the IDF justify it to themselves? What absolute moral depravity.

inkworks273 · 17/02/2024 10:01

www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2024-02-16/rafah-gaza-hospitals-surgery-israel-bombing-ground-offensive-children

"Opinion: I’m an American doctor who went to Gaza. What I saw wasn’t war — it was annihilation"

Horrifying account from an American reconstructive surgeon who just spent 10 days in Gaza.

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Efacsen · 17/02/2024 08:47

@Parkingt111 that's true - and there are more babies in incubators at Nasser too

Just seems more public and blatant this time or maybe my memories of Al Shifa are fading

Hope ICJ are taking note

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Parkingt111 · 17/02/2024 08:41

@Efacsen it was the same thing in Al- Shifa hospital too. Despite being in the hospital they didn't allow any fuel in.

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Efacsen · 17/02/2024 08:39

The trucks are just 50 metres from the hospital gates maybe can be seen from the hospital windows- they are surrounded by tanks and piles of sand moved by military bulldozers to stop them moving

Is it intended as some kind of crude pressure on the detained medics who are being 'questioned' by IDF atm?

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Efacsen · 17/02/2024 08:25

Israeli forces block WHO medicine, fuel for Nasser Hospital

For almost 10 hours now, there’s been two trucks filled with medical supplies outside of Nasser Hospital. They’re also carrying much-needed fuel for generators to provide power to the besieged health facility

I don't understand this - IDF are in total control of the hospital so surely no concerns about these vital supplies falling into the hands of Hamas. Five patients have already died from lack of oxygen/no electrical power and a further 9 are at risk of dying incl 3 children

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stomachamelon · 17/02/2024 05:18

@FOJN because that's what morons tell them and they want their hostages back.

Mainly about Al Shifa [bombed front of hospital 3]
FOJN · 16/02/2024 22:57

I believe they even brought cadaver dogs to try and locate any deceased hostages.

Cadaver dogs in a hospital in Gaza? The IDF are even more daft than I thought. How do people believe this nonsense?

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Efacsen · 16/02/2024 22:31

Latest on the situation at Nasser

  • Israeli forces are still detaining a large number of medical personnel, patients and displaced people in the maternity building of the hospital, subjecting them to interrogation in harsh and inhumane conditions.
  • Five medical staff and 120 patients are being kept by Israeli soldiers in the old Nasser Hospital building – without any food, water or electricity.
  • Generators have stopped working at the hospital, threatening the lives of patients needing oxygen.
  • Israeli forces are preventing the evacuation of critical cases from the facility to other hospitals for treatment.

Also IDF prevented a WHO aid convoy reaching the hospital

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Humdingerydoo · 16/02/2024 21:40

EasterIssland · 16/02/2024 21:15

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One of the released hostages said that's where dozens of them were held at one point, her, her husband and their young children included. She has no reason to lie - her husband is still hostage so she'd be giving as accurate intel as possible as she obviously wants to bring him home. I'm assuming Hagari means they haven't yet found any hostages, dead or alive, there at this precise moment, but they know they've been there. I believe they even brought cadaver dogs to try and locate any deceased hostages.

EasterIssland · 16/02/2024 21:15

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Mainly about Al Shifa [bombed front of hospital 3]
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Efacsen · 16/02/2024 09:12

So maybe then - plastic surgeons seem to be 'high up' in the hierachy [from observation only] because of all the burn injuries etc

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Parkingt111 · 16/02/2024 09:08

@Efacsen he is head of plastic and reconstructive surgery

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Efacsen · 16/02/2024 09:05

@Parkingt111 how senior is Dr Admad? - if he's director level it definitely sounds possible

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Parkingt111 · 16/02/2024 09:01

I have just read now that four people have reportedly died at Al Nasser ICU after the oxygen supply was cut off

Parkingt111 · 16/02/2024 08:47

@Efacsen thanks for updating. Dr Ahmed who I follow for updates at Al Nasser hospital has stopped posting. No idea if he is amongst those who have been detained.
Carrying injured patients on people's backs up the stairs! It's terrible

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Efacsen · 16/02/2024 08:40

Unlike when this happened at Al Shifa there aren't several other intact hospitals around to accommodate evacuees from Nasser hospital - the European hospital in Khan Younis is already taking patients from Rafah

Can't imagine how this going to pan out

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