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Conflict in the Middle East

Mainly about Al Shifa [bombed front of hospital 3]

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Efacsen · 26/11/2023 18:18

Continuation from thread 3

The on-going dire situation at the hospital

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EasterIssland · 19/03/2024 15:42

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Mainly about Al Shifa [bombed front of hospital 3]
Kindatired · 18/03/2024 22:01

And at best for marginal military gains at horrific expense in terms of innocent lives.

To paraphrase pro Israeli analyst Nicholas Kristof, if there genuinely was an element of Hamas reconstituting itself in the midst of the devastation of Al Shifa,
then this illustrates that attacking this facility is a pointless exercise. Hamas or some extremist successor will just reconstitute elsewhere in Gaza wherever they try to eradicate it.

And if Israel can’t evacuate 30,000 civilians and keep them safe , it’s just lying about being able to protect more than a million civilians in Raffah .

Parkingt111 · 18/03/2024 20:26

Footage of the aftermath of the raid at al shifa hospital from sky news. It's a nightmare

https://news.sky.com/story/israel-gaza-hamas-latest-middle-east-live-updates-sky-news-blog-12978800?postid=7405270#liveblog-body

Molymoly · 18/03/2024 17:28

Totally agree.

HeidiInTheBigCity · 18/03/2024 16:46

Can we just take one big step of abstraction back and look at the bigger picture here for a second, please?!

Months ago: "nooooooo, Israel would never! First of all, there wasn't any such thing as any actual bombing of Al-Ahli hospital ... and if there was, it wasn't us!"

Next up: "there is a Hamas command centre under Shifa hospital - look, we made a fancy 3d animation!"

These days: [just casually bombing, raiding, otherwise targeting hospitals]

Call me insane, but I genuinely think we're being systematically conditioned to think this sort of stuff is "normal" and "par for the course". (It really fucking isn't! These are war crimes!)

Efacsen · 18/03/2024 13:35

IDF claiming to have killed senior Hamas at Al-Shifa as reason for the assault on the hospital

In a statement, the IDF said:

Eliminated: Faiq Mabhouh, head of the Operations Directorate of Hamas’ Internal Security. Mabhouh was hiding in a compound at the Shifa hospital, from which he operated and advanced terrorist activity.

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Parkingt111 · 18/03/2024 12:27

I have just seen this. More horrors after horrors. A mother who lived near al shifa hospital went to look for food. She came back to find her house bombed and her children trapped under the rubble, no idea if they are alive or dead.

Efacsen · 18/03/2024 09:11

New 'precise' attack on al- Shifa overnight as said by IDF to be still being used by Hamas - no prior evacuations and large fire set at the entrance making it difficult to leave. IDF have detained 80 people

Israel launches raid on al-Shifa hospital

The Israeli army has launched an operation around Gaza’s largest hospital, al-Shifa, saying in a statement that it is “based on intelligence information indicating the use of the hospital by senior Hamas terrorists”. The IDF also described the operation as “precise”.

In the wake of the raid, Palestinian health authorities say there is now a fierce fire burning in one of the buildings.

Gaza’s Hamas-run health ministry says the blaze broke out at the entrance of the complex, causing cases of suffocation among displaced women and children in the hospital. It said communication had been cut off, with people trapped inside the surgery and emergency units of one of the buildings.

“There are casualties, including deaths and injuries, and it’s impossible to rescue anyone due to the intensity of the fire and targeting of anyone approaching the windows,” the ministry said, accusing Israeli forces of “another crime against health institutions”.

The Israeli military says soldiers entering the compound were fired on,and hits were identified. Our troops are continuing to operate in the area of the hospital.”

Neither the IDF’s nor the Hamas claims could immediately be verified.

https://twitter.com/IDF/status/1769536658838311060

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EasterIssland · 17/03/2024 21:27

Just saw Hamas has released a video showing how they’ve killed the idf member that sieged the Al-Shifa hospital

EasterIssland · 17/03/2024 18:13

From prcs

The Israeli occupation forces released yesterday the PRCS volunteer, Tamer Fouad Salim Al-Qarm, after a 36-day detention during the occupation's raid on Al-Amal Hospital in Khan Yunis. Meanwhile, the occupation continues to detain 13 PRCS members and volunteers, whose fate remains unknown to this moment

Efacsen · 15/03/2024 07:07

Thanks @Parkingt111 and @EasterIssland for posting the 2 BBC articles on the fall of Nasser hospital

Grim reading. And shameful behaviour

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Parkingt111 · 12/03/2024 09:44

In the meantime they refused to let the staff bury the deceased to the point where the bodies started to decompose

Multiple medics said that the IDF would not grant them permission to bury or even move the bodies of patients who died in the aftermath of the operation. The bodies remained inside with staff and patients as they began to decompose, the medics said.
"The smell filled the whole department," Dr Rabaa said. "Patients were screaming 'please remove them from here'. I was telling them 'it isn't in my hands'."

Parkingt111 · 12/03/2024 09:42

From the article

Dr Abu Sabha told the BBC that detainees were routinely punished for perceived infractions. "At one point, the blindfold moved down a bit and my hands were handcuffed from behind and I could not fix it.

"They took me out for punishment… I was standing with my hands raised above my head and my face looking down for three hours. Then, he [a soldier] asked me to come to him. When I did, he kept hitting my hand until it was broken."
Later that day, he was taken to the toilet, beaten, and had muzzled dogs set on him, he said.

The day after, an Israeli doctor fitted him with a cast and then soldiers drew a Star of David on it, he said. This cast was later changed by a doctor in Gaza and Ahmed was wearing a cast during his interview with the BBC.

The BBC confirmed that Dr Abu Sabha had an X-ray and sought treatment for a broken hand at a field hospital in Gaza after his detention, and that he arrived there in a cast with a Star of David drawn on it.

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Efacsen · 06/03/2024 08:39

It's always so depressing what I post - do look for the tiny bits of good news but none recently
Equally lost for words and think many others are too

Yes, it is very depressing. I just want this to stop. ☹️

Efacsen · 06/03/2024 08:39

It's always so depressing what I post - do look for the tiny bits of good news but none recently
Equally lost for words and think many others are too

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PeasfullPerson · 06/03/2024 07:37

Thanks for the dedicated updates. I read them but I’m not always sure what to write in response.

Me neither. It just keeps getting worse and worse. ☹️

PeasfullPerson · 06/03/2024 07:37

Thanks for the dedicated updates. I read them but I’m not always sure what to write in response.

Efacsen · 06/03/2024 07:34

More than 8,000 patients need to be evacuated from Gaza: WHO

An official for the World Health Organization (WHO) has said that more than 8,000 people needed to be referred outside Gaza for medical treatment.
Dr Richard Peeperkorn, the WHO representative for Gaza and the West Bank, told reporters on Tuesday that some 6,000 people needed to be referred for war-related injuries and ailments.
These include patients with multiple trauma injuries, burns and amputations.
The other 2,000 were patients requiring care for cancer and other serious chronic illnesses.
The WHO said moving such patients out of Gaza would relieve some of the strain on the medics and hospitals that are struggling to keep functioning in a war zone

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Efacsen · 06/03/2024 06:35

Another hospital in Rafah under unimaginable strain - can't imagine giving birth like this

For midwives in Rafah, ‘childbirth means chaos and suffering

’Midwives at the Al-Helal Al Emirati Hospital in Gaza’s Rafah are dealing with a “significant increase” in the number of childbirths due to the influx of displaced people into the southern city, according to the UN family planning agency (UNFPA).

The hospital recently saw 78 babies delivered in a single day, the UNFPA said.
The increase in deliveries at the already overburdened hospital has resulted in “chaos and suffering”, the agency said.

“We are delivering non-stop. In our delivery ward, we only have five beds for so many pregnant women,” one midwife told the agency. “While one woman is giving birth, another expectant mother comes into the ward. We tell the woman who has just given birth, ‘We need the bed. Get up, sit on the chair’.”

Conditions at the delivery ward are “miserable,” she said.

“Most of the women come in with infections. They haven’t been able to check the baby’s weight or movement. They just arrive for the delivery, hoping for the best. The foetus could be dead and the mother wouldn’t even know.”

UNFPA

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Efacsen · 02/03/2024 13:07

Don't often hear what's happening in the hospital in Rafah - needless to say it's nothing good

Crowded hospital looks like refugee camp in Rafah

Hani Mahmoud
Reporting from Rafah, Gaza

Abu Youssef al-Najjar Hospital in Rafah, where victims of a car attack have been taken for treatment, was unprepared to deal with the large number of injuries it is receiving.

The hospital has also turned into a refugee camp, with displaced people crowding inside its corridors and courtyards, leaving no space for paramedics or doctors to move freely. The pressure continues to increase on Rafah’s health facilities.

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Efacsen · 02/03/2024 06:54

WHO and UN have visited Al Shifa which was recently overwhelmed [again] this time by victims of the 'flour massacre' - as well as providing aid they were able to make an assessment of the nature of injuries suffered by victims ie gunshot vs being run over

WHO provides fuel, medical supplies to al-Shifa Hospital

Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, the director general of the World Health Organization (WHO), said the body and other aid groups have managed to reach al-Shifa Hospital to supply it with aid for the first time in more than a month.

The teams delivered 19,000 litres (about 5,000 gallons) of fuel to the north Gaza facility, as well as “lifesaving medical supplies for 150 patients and treatment for 50 children suffering from severe acute malnutrition”, Tedros said in a post on X.

However, he noted that the facility’s capacity remains “very limited” due to scarce “supplies, fuel, water, and food” and that it was relying on volunteers to treat more than 240 patients.

“The level of destruction around the hospital is beyond words,” he said.

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Efacsen · 28/02/2024 09:16

North Gaza hospital shuts down surgery department

Gaza’s al-Awda Hospital, one of the few partially functioning health facilities left in the north, has had to cancel all surgical operations after two of its operating rooms were “targeted and destroyed”, according to its acting director Mohamed Salha.
“This means that all medical services related to obstetrics and gynaecology have stopped completely,” Salha told Al Jazeera.
The closure also means the hospital must cancel all orthopaedic and plastic surgeries, which can help save the limbs of wounded Palestinians, Salha said.
“We were the only hospital in northern Gaza for orthopaedic surgeries … There is no other alternative place in northern Gaza or Gaza City because the health

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