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Conflict in the Middle East

Israelis held hostage (part 2)

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StarbucksSmarterSister · 25/11/2023 18:50

Continuing

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ohforheavenssakedearcomeonnow · 26/11/2023 16:18

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This was deleted as it is not the spirit of the site.

Care to elaborate?

EllaDisenchanted · 26/11/2023 16:18

Israeli news reporting 13 Israeli, 3 Thai and 1 Russian hostage.

Efacsen · 26/11/2023 16:17

Kaffeebitte · 26/11/2023 16:10

Thought there were 14 though

I think BBC made a mistake - everyone else is still saying 13

Kaffeebitte · 26/11/2023 16:10

Thought there were 14 though

Kaffeebitte · 26/11/2023 16:09

Saw this on twitter but I don’t know if it’s a verified list :

  1. Abigail Idan, 4
  2. Ella Elyakim, 8
  3. Dafna Elyakim, 15
  4. Hagar Brodetz Ama, 40 and her children
  5. Ofri Brodetz, 10
  6. Yuval Brodetz, 8
  7. Oriya Brodetz, 4
  8. Chen Goldstein, 48 and her children
  9. Agam Goldstein, 17
10. Tal Goldstein, 9 11. Gal Goldstein, 11 12. Alma Avraham, 84 13. Adrian Aviva Siegel, 63
XRAYTHIS · 26/11/2023 16:00

Are there more hostages due for release tomorrow?
Is the plan daily release until all are free again?

Cashncarry68 · 26/11/2023 15:54

Cashncarry68 · 26/11/2023 15:52

The Red Cross do a Sterling job. They really do.

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Oops, sterling I meant. Post edited.

Cashncarry68 · 26/11/2023 15:52

Efacsen · 26/11/2023 15:50

More good news

IDF says 14 Israeli hostages and three foreign nationals transferred to ICRC

The Israeli army says that, based on information it has received from the Red Cross, 14 Israeli hostages and three foreign hostages have been transferred to the Red Cross.

BBC Breaking News

The Red Cross do a Sterling job. They really do.

Efacsen · 26/11/2023 15:50

More good news

IDF says 14 Israeli hostages and three foreign nationals transferred to ICRC

The Israeli army says that, based on information it has received from the Red Cross, 14 Israeli hostages and three foreign hostages have been transferred to the Red Cross.

BBC Breaking News

Cashncarry68 · 26/11/2023 15:39

EllaDisenchanted · 26/11/2023 15:28

Praying today they release the littlest hostages

A priority, I would like to think.

stormy4319trevor · 26/11/2023 15:36

StarbucksSmarterSister · 26/11/2023 14:54

I started this particular thread on the assumption it was discuss hostages not detainees, nor to talk about the alleged iniquities of the Israeli prison system. People can start a separate thread about that if they wish.

For the avoidance of doubt I shall ask MNHQ to change the title.

Probably a good idea. I suggest it's made clear it's not a continuation of thread 1 , and is only to discuss hostages held in Gaza. I will set one up regarding the topics we were discussing on thread 1, maybe?

EllaDisenchanted · 26/11/2023 15:28

Praying today they release the littlest hostages

Reallifelurker · 26/11/2023 15:23

I can see why people might want separate threads when it's impossible to talk about hostage release without some pushing an agenda over and over or talking about Israeli government policies which has nothing to do with the hostages and their release.

Well the post of yours that I responded to mentioned a Palestinian detainee but ok. Maybe that’s your preogative.

XRAYTHIS · 26/11/2023 15:15

@Reallifelurker go back and read my original post then. You're mistaken, no generalisation just a post about one released prisoner.

I can see why people might want separate threads when it's impossible to talk about hostage release without some pushing an agenda over and over or talking about Israeli government policies which has nothing to do with the hostages and their release.

I think I'll just ignore posts not about hostage release in future since that's what I want to find out about. I can find out people's view about the Israel government on other threads.

XRAYTHIS · 26/11/2023 15:03

Efacsen · 26/11/2023 14:58

If this is the only Russian hostage the Russians will be disappointed - they had 6 or 7 taken hostage and Hamas said they'd 'look for them' which didn't sound very promising at the time

But good news overall - touch wood

Hamas says it has released hostage holding Russian citizenship

Hamas says it has released a hostage who held Russian citizenship from Gaza.

The group added that it had taken the action in appreciation of Moscow’s position on the war.''

'They'd look for them' that doesn't sound promising! Although I understand that some hostages were taken by another terrorist organisation and some by Palestinian men (unaffiliated).

Reallifelurker · 26/11/2023 15:03

I said none of what you are inferring and you know that, so why day that.
I wasn’t inferring anything. I was clarifying my point which is what you asked me to do.

I was talking about one particular man, not women and children and what that particular man was arrested for (throwing explosives) and what that particular man did on release celebrated with Hamas and put on their colours. You know that too.
It looked like you were making a generalisation to me.

Why don't you just start a thread for prisoners or detainees or whatever being released. Why post of the thread for hostages?
I suppose because the two topics are linked as they are being exchanged for each other. I’m not trying to upset anyone but that post by a pp saying everyone in Israel gets a fair trail because they’re a democracy just set me off again.

Thekirit · 26/11/2023 15:02

How sad segregation on MN being promoted.
Even non Jewish people are welcome on Jewish threads.
What on earth is happening in the world when most people just want peace.

Praying for this war to stop and for all to live side by side, even on MN

Cashncarry68 · 26/11/2023 15:02

So sad this young lady's brother wasn't released with her.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/released-hostage-maya-regev-in-moderate-condition-will-undergo-a-series-of-surgeries/

Efacsen · 26/11/2023 14:58

If this is the only Russian hostage the Russians will be disappointed - they had 6 or 7 taken hostage and Hamas said they'd 'look for them' which didn't sound very promising at the time

But good news overall - touch wood

Hamas says it has released hostage holding Russian citizenship

Hamas says it has released a hostage who held Russian citizenship from Gaza.

The group added that it had taken the action in appreciation of Moscow’s position on the war.''

XRAYTHIS · 26/11/2023 14:56

Reallifelurker · 26/11/2023 14:51

Well he was released for said crime. He did put a hamas headband on and was being carried by Hamas so what's your point? It's there to see

While a lot of people detained by the Israelis may have committed some form of crime they are detained indefinitely without trial which is problematic.
Also a lot of them are apparently women and children not young men with home made bombs but it’s ok because the kids are probably going to be terrorists anyway. That is also problematic.

I said none of what you are inferring and you know that, so why say that?

I was talking about one particular man, not women and children and what that particular man was arrested for (throwing explosives) and what that particular man did on release celebrated with Hamas and put on their colours. You know that too.

Why don't you just start a thread for prisoners or detainees or whatever being released. Why post of the thread for hostages? Or is it to detail? I think as other poster suggested I will just ignore and read posts about hostages in future. There are numerous pro Palestine support threads. Any chance that this could be about hostages?

StarbucksSmarterSister · 26/11/2023 14:54

Readingallnight · 26/11/2023 13:18

Having read back over posts there seems to have been a rather ‘heated’ discussion on the nature or viability of those released from Israeli jails.
A slight derailment, perhaps this has caused this issue.
The first thread discussed all releases and the ceasefire arrangement. So I agree, as long as it doesn’t get derailed, everyone deserves a right to speak.

Have those wishing to discuss all those being released been thrown off….I really don’t know.
Perhaps OP could confirm as it’s her/ his thread ???

I started this particular thread on the assumption it was discuss hostages not detainees, nor to talk about the alleged iniquities of the Israeli prison system. People can start a separate thread about that if they wish.

For the avoidance of doubt I shall ask MNHQ to change the title.

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Reallifelurker · 26/11/2023 14:54

I've given up bothering to even read their posts now

I’m not convinced you were reading them in the first place.

Reallifelurker · 26/11/2023 14:51

Well he was released for said crime. He did put a hamas headband on and was being carried by Hamas so what's your point? It's there to see

While a lot of people detained by the Israelis may have committed some form of crime they are detained indefinitely without trial which is problematic.
Also a lot of them are apparently women and children not young men with home made bombs but it’s ok because the kids are probably going to be terrorists anyway. That is also problematic.

Cashncarry68 · 26/11/2023 14:47

XRAYTHIS · 26/11/2023 14:46

Are you saying he didn't throw explosive devices then?

Perhaps a thread for hostages and a separate thread for detainees would help?

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I've given up bothering to even read their posts now.

XRAYTHIS · 26/11/2023 14:46

Reallifelurker · 26/11/2023 14:32

I agree.

One of the young men released today was arrested for throwing molotov cocktails (explosives) at soldiers. He immediately popped on the green Hamas headband and celebrated with them. It was on the news and there for all to see.

A bit different than a young girl released to her father after being kidnapped and held for 50 days

Same to you. Have tried googling “administrative detention”?

He “popped on” a headband did he? 🙄

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Are you saying he didn't throw explosive devices then?

Perhaps a thread for hostages and a separate thread for detainees would help?