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Conflict in the Middle East

Israelis held hostage (part 2)

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StarbucksSmarterSister · 25/11/2023 18:50

Continuing

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Kaffeebitte · 27/11/2023 13:03

Israeli military are putting the pressure on to end the truce.

Parkingt111 · 27/11/2023 12:36

The Guardian is reporting this:

Israel has said it has shown willingness to extend the truce if Hamas will continue to release hostages. An Israeli official told Reuters the onus was on Hamas to produce a new list of 10 hostages it could free on Tuesday in exchange for that becoming an additional truce day. That process would continue for a maximum of five additional days to the current truce, the official added.

Does this mean even if Hamas continue to release 10 hostages a day, Israel will only allow the truce to continue for 5 more days? Which limits the hostages released to 50?

Stomacharmeleon · 27/11/2023 10:06

@Humdingerydoo no more excuses for releasing the babies.

Parkingt111 · 27/11/2023 09:33

From sky news
Israel and Hamas have raised concerns over the lists of hostages and prisoners set to be released today, an official briefed on the matter has told Reuters.
Qatari mediators are working with both parties to resolve the issues and avoid delays, the official said.
"There is a slight issue with today's lists. The Qataris are working with both sides to resolve it," the official said. and Hamas 'raise concerns' over hostage and prisoner listsIsrael and Hamas have raised concerns over the lists of hostages and prisoners set to be released today, an official briefed on the matter has told Reuters.
Qatari mediators are working with both parties to resolve the issues and avoid delays, the official said.
"There is a slight issue with today's lists. The Qataris are working with both sides to resolve it," the official said.

Humdingerydoo · 27/11/2023 09:23

Looks like Hamas are back to playing their sick little games and that hostage release might not go ahead today as a result.

XRAYTHIS · 26/11/2023 21:26

Puzzledandpissedoff · 26/11/2023 19:43

I'm pretty sure the deal is a 4 day pause and 13 Israelis released each day, so 50-ish in total, then 10 more per day if a longer pause is agreed

If my maths hasn't deserted me that would involve an additional pause of about 20 days, but whether the whole thing will hold together that long is anyone's guess

Thank you.

XRAYTHIS · 26/11/2023 21:21

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Seriously, this thread is about innocent hostages. Go rant elsewhere. The children released and some with mothers or grandmother's are not the platform for your hatred.

You aren't doing yourself any favours.

Stomacharmeleon · 26/11/2023 21:07

I can't see that there will be much movement until all the women and children are released and I admire the sheik for saying so.
It will show how much clout Hamas has got in the area.
I am also thinking of baby kfir and his brother. It doesn't bare thinking about what their reality is at the moment

Trulywonderful · 26/11/2023 21:04

Iwantcakeeveryday · 26/11/2023 20:38

Oh no, who has them? I hope they're still alive.

Hamas is saying different Jihad groups in Gaza. Some have been working with Hamas to return the hostages. Others are not. However this is all a matter of if you believe totally what Hamas is saying. Plus Qatar are sounding very sceptical about the idea that Hamas doesn't know where all the children and women are being held. That they can't give names of all those captive or say how many are still alive etc

Pinkpinkpink15 · 26/11/2023 21:04

StarbucksSmarterSister · 26/11/2023 16:35

I think the Brodetzs are the neighbours that Avigail ran to.

Still no baby Kfir or his brother and mother. ☹ I I suspect Hamas will consider him to be one of the most important hostages and will keep him longer.

@StarbucksSmarterSister

thats my fear. Got is high value & that's not a good thing.

i hope the babus & children are all out very soon.

StarbucksSmarterSister · 26/11/2023 21:01

SomeCatFromJapan · 26/11/2023 19:40

I am so overjoyed and relieved for Maayan Zin and her daughters. I've seen her twitter posts and her anguish has been palpable.

I saw the video of Hamas holding them hostage at home on that 1st day with their father, his partner and her 17 year old son. The other 3 were all murdered.

I can't imagine what all of these hostages have been through, the children especially. I saw a video today of Emily Hand, she looks absolutely traumatised the poor kid.

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Lobster7 · 26/11/2023 20:59

Reallifelurker · 26/11/2023 19:10

That is a really foul Anti-Semitic post.

Why don't you post on this thread which was set up a few hours ago

Actually could they not.

What is anti semitic about the post?

Kaffeebitte · 26/11/2023 20:53

I wonder if they might start to negotiate over the men . Difficult for Israel but they’ve done it before .

CatLoaf · 26/11/2023 20:52

Can't stop thinking about baby Kfir and his brother Ariel

Iwantcakeeveryday · 26/11/2023 20:38

Trulywonderful · 26/11/2023 19:50

Qatari prime minister Sheikh Mohammed bin Abdulrahman al-Thani told the Financial Times that more than 40 other women and children were being kept captive in Gaza who were not believed to be held by Hamas.

He said the truce could be extended if Hamas was able to use the pause in the conflict to locate those hostages. “If they get additional women and children, there will be an extension,” Sheikh Mohammed said in an interview. “We don’t yet have any clear information how many they can find because . . . one of the purposes [of the pause] is they [Hamas] will have time to search for the rest of the missing people.”

https://www.ft.com/content/2f684109-ec6f-4db2-9304-ef620b2e46d2

Oh no, who has them? I hope they're still alive.

Kaffeebitte · 26/11/2023 20:22

etmoiandme · 26/11/2023 19:17

What an incredible woman.

Trulywonderful · 26/11/2023 19:52

Puzzledandpissedoff · 26/11/2023 19:43

I'm pretty sure the deal is a 4 day pause and 13 Israelis released each day, so 50-ish in total, then 10 more per day if a longer pause is agreed

If my maths hasn't deserted me that would involve an additional pause of about 20 days, but whether the whole thing will hold together that long is anyone's guess

A four-day pause in the war brokered by the Gulf state which began on Friday is due to end after Monday. As part of the deal the Islamist group agreed to free 50 women and children. In return Israel agreed to the delivery of increased aid into the besieged strip and the release of 150 Palestinians held in Israeli prisons.

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Trulywonderful · 26/11/2023 19:50

Qatari prime minister Sheikh Mohammed bin Abdulrahman al-Thani told the Financial Times that more than 40 other women and children were being kept captive in Gaza who were not believed to be held by Hamas.

He said the truce could be extended if Hamas was able to use the pause in the conflict to locate those hostages. “If they get additional women and children, there will be an extension,” Sheikh Mohammed said in an interview. “We don’t yet have any clear information how many they can find because . . . one of the purposes [of the pause] is they [Hamas] will have time to search for the rest of the missing people.”

https://www.ft.com/content/2f684109-ec6f-4db2-9304-ef620b2e46d2

Hamas must locate dozens more hostages to extend truce, says Qatar

Gulf state PM Sheikh Mohammed bin Abdulrahman al-Thani says more than 40 Israelis are held by others in Gaza

https://www.ft.com/content/2f684109-ec6f-4db2-9304-ef620b2e46d2

Puzzledandpissedoff · 26/11/2023 19:43

XRAYTHIS · 26/11/2023 16:00

Are there more hostages due for release tomorrow?
Is the plan daily release until all are free again?

I'm pretty sure the deal is a 4 day pause and 13 Israelis released each day, so 50-ish in total, then 10 more per day if a longer pause is agreed

If my maths hasn't deserted me that would involve an additional pause of about 20 days, but whether the whole thing will hold together that long is anyone's guess

SomeCatFromJapan · 26/11/2023 19:40

I am so overjoyed and relieved for Maayan Zin and her daughters. I've seen her twitter posts and her anguish has been palpable.

StarbucksSmarterSister · 26/11/2023 19:34

18 children still held hostage.

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Reallifelurker · 26/11/2023 19:10

That is a really foul Anti-Semitic post.

Why don't you post on this thread which was set up a few hours ago

Actually could they not.

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