Page 27 | Israelis held hostage (part 2)

Noatinto · 27/11/2023 19:40

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/11/27/middleeast/russian-israeli-hostage-escaped-hamas-intl/index.html.

How many Gazans are for Hamas and how many are against them? I see stories like this and just think why? Why would ordinary citizens turn over people to terrorists who want to kill them? And the " ordinary" people who cheered when Shani Louk was paraded through the streets? Israel are now releasing terrorists from their jail's. How can Israel ever be safe if this is what their neighbours think of them?

Russian-Israeli hostage escaped from Hamas but was found and returned by Gazans, says aunt | CNN

A Russian-Israeli hostage who managed to escape from Hamas was recaptured and returned to the militants, before being finally released on Sunday, his aunt has said.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/11/27/middleeast/russian-israeli-hostage-escaped-hamas-intl/index.html

basculin · 27/11/2023 19:07

StarbucksSmarterSister · 27/11/2023 18:34

Oh this is vile. It’s said to have been written by Danielle Aloni. IF she did write it, she was forced to since Hamas still hold her sister and twin 3 year old nieces.

They really are scum.

https://twitter.com/DrAhmedtaher1/status/1729196309012472011?t=j97hkkhtQ_3QysYSYGIL_w&s=19

That's sick.

Stomacharmeleon · 27/11/2023 19:05

No kfir, Ariel and their mum....

InvisibleDuck · 27/11/2023 19:03

I've seen this list for today

Sharon Cunio (34)
Emma Cunio (3)
Yuli Cunio (3)
Karina Engel (53)
Mika Engel (18)
Yuval Engel (11)
Amit Shani (16)
Sahar Calderon (16)
Erez Calderon (13)

10. Or Yaakov (16) 11. Yigil Yaakov (13)

EllaDisenchanted · 27/11/2023 19:01

mika 18, yuval 11

EllaDisenchanted · 27/11/2023 18:57

That’s 6 so far l. Supposed to be 11 today (to bring up to 50 Israelis) and 6 Thai hostages

EllaDisenchanted · 27/11/2023 18:55

@Parkingt111 Someone I follow on instagram who posts news updates. Not an official news site/journalist, but usually fairly accurate and posts corrections If not.
list so far of hostages ; Sharon cunio and twin daughters Emily and Yulia (age 3). I believe Sharon is Danielle aloni sister who was one of the first released.
Karina englebert and daughters Mika and yuval. Dad remains behind.

Parkingt111 · 27/11/2023 18:41

EllaDisenchanted · 27/11/2023 17:45

apparently red cross have received tonight's hostages.

Hello Ella
Can I ask where that was reported please? I have looked for an update and I can't see anything which is slightly worrying

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StarbucksSmarterSister · 27/11/2023 18:34

Oh this is vile. It’s said to have been written by Danielle Aloni. IF she did write it, she was forced to since Hamas still hold her sister and twin 3 year old nieces.

They really are scum.

https://twitter.com/DrAhmedtaher1/status/1729196309012472011?t=j97hkkhtQ_3QysYSYGIL_w&s=19

https://twitter.com/DrAhmedtaher1/status/1729196309012472011?s=19&t=j97hkkhtQ_3QysYSYGIL_w

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Stomacharmeleon · 27/11/2023 18:26

@EllaDisenchanted was just going to post this...

EllaDisenchanted · 27/11/2023 18:07

https://www.timesofisrael.com/daughter-of-critically-ill-84-year-old-freed-hostage-red-cross-abandoned-her/

Elma Avraham released yesterday remains in critical condition.

EllaDisenchanted · 27/11/2023 17:45

apparently red cross have received tonight's hostages.

Kaffeebitte · 27/11/2023 16:45

StarbucksSmarterSister · 27/11/2023 16:12

Roni Kariboy's (the freed Russian - Israeli) apparently escaped when the building he was held in was bombed. For several days he hid until the Gazans caught him and returned him to Hamas.

From an interview with his aunt.

This is so awful.

Stomacharmeleon · 27/11/2023 16:44

@StarbucksSmarterSister that's horrendous.
I think the possibility that normal Gazan's have hostages and are complicit in this (I appreciate not all) is a very real possibility.

It also entertains Hamas not having control of Gaza and rather than controlled by one terrorist mob it's several.

I am devastated Kfir, Ariel and Shira are unaccounted for.

EllaDisenchanted · 27/11/2023 16:40

Sorry @StarbucksSmarterSister can see you wrote the same.
I think the delays are deliberate, it’s psychological warfare.

EllaDisenchanted · 27/11/2023 16:39

It’s been very backwards and forward today. Delays finding one of the hostages apparently. Also seen the bibas family not on the list (kfir 10 months, Ariel 4 , and mum Shira)
early reports of an additional two days agreed, for 20 more hostages.

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StarbucksSmarterSister · 27/11/2023 16:13

And Kfir, Ariel and their mother are not on today's list apparently.

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StarbucksSmarterSister · 27/11/2023 16:12

Roni Kariboy's (the freed Russian - Israeli) apparently escaped when the building he was held in was bombed. For several days he hid until the Gazans caught him and returned him to Hamas.

From an interview with his aunt.

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StarbucksSmarterSister · 27/11/2023 16:00

A video from Maayan, seeing her girls for the first time after 7 weeks. Their father, stepmother and stepbrother were all murdered.

https://twitter.com/ZinMaayan1007/status/1729151184248685026?t=7AJ8q5bLZOEC23BPmwYgbw&s=19

https://twitter.com/ZinMaayan1007/status/1729151184248685026?s=19&t=7AJ8q5bLZOEC23BPmwYgbw

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XRAYTHIS · 27/11/2023 15:03

Parkingt111 · 27/11/2023 15:01

Please note the below update is a possibility and not yet confirmed. But one that I am praying goes through

Egypt and Qatar are close to reaching a deal to extend Israel’s truce with Gaza by two days, Diaa Rashwan, head of Egypt’s State Information Service (SIS) said on Monday.
The two-day extension would include the release of 20 Israeli hostages and 60 Palestinian detainees, Reuters reports he said. Eleven Israeli hostages are expected to be released on Monday.

Thank you.

Let's hope it goes ahead

Parkingt111 · 27/11/2023 15:01

Please note the below update is a possibility and not yet confirmed. But one that I am praying goes through

Egypt and Qatar are close to reaching a deal to extend Israel’s truce with Gaza by two days, Diaa Rashwan, head of Egypt’s State Information Service (SIS) said on Monday.
The two-day extension would include the release of 20 Israeli hostages and 60 Palestinian detainees, Reuters reports he said. Eleven Israeli hostages are expected to be released on Monday.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 27/11/2023 14:21

@Parkingt111 bearing in mind that Hamas may not know where all the hostages are, it may be Israel are putting a limit on the "pause" they can expect to see what transpires in those 5 days with a view to extending it if things go smoothly

Hamas can hardly release people they don't have, and things could get thorny if they "run out" of hostages with many still missing

XRAYTHIS · 27/11/2023 14:02

I don't think Hamas know where all of the hostages are and they don't appear to have any control over other terrorist organisations and some general Palestinian people seem to have some hostages too. I cannot imagine what has happened to them and sadly they may be dead. They don't tell us all the information that they fond out.

Efacsen · 27/11/2023 13:27

Lost some of the last para should say
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......................best that can be achieved at the moment with this deal - but other options eg rescue by the military will continue with fresh vigour

Efacsen · 27/11/2023 13:05

@Parkingt111 was thinking about this earlier - before the 5 days was raised

That would mean 100 hostages released - and 140 left behind who may realistically be beyond the reach of this deal

the adult men -soldiers + civilians but POW to Hamas, not for release
hostages who are already deceased
hostages who are 'missing'/with other terrorist orgs

It depends on whether the Hostage Families and general public in Israel would accept that rationale and reluctantly make do with having retrieved most of the women, children and ?elderly men as the best that can be achieved