Israelis held hostage (part 2)

@XRAYTHIS actually I don't think they are naive. I think they have more in common with Mince then they would admit....

@EllaDisenchanted I thought I had read when there was an issue day two Egypt had been involved with mediations.

Every thread goes the same way and it's the same names

Every thread, regardless of the subject.

Every thread.

I try not to engage with the whatabouters and keep on topic, but my god, it's hard

Read the thread title. Respond appropriately

It's not hard, it's what Mumsnet is about.

Every sodding thread.

Actually I think I've got that wrong apologies @EllaDisenchanted

Qatar was the only mediator for the hostage negotiations

But you're quite right when there was a wobble in the ceasefire agreement previous to this Qatar and Egypt were both involved in mediating the dispute

If I was held by a vile terrorist group I'd smile and wave and write thank you letters for (kidnapping us) then treating our children well, especially since there are lots more hostages in captivity.

The propaganda works though on many who have commented that they 'looked after them well'. The naivety is astounding.

@Reallifelurker the thread title was specifically altered to prevent this issue and confusion about the topic.

It must be torture thinking they are about to be released and then this.

Horrific:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12799523/israel-hamas-war-hostages-freed-palestinian-prisoners-kfir-bibas.html

Qatar is the only mediator

Israel Hamas Egypt and US were all parties to the negotiations

Israel and Hamas are the signatories to the hostage exchange agreement

@Parkingt111 i thought Egypt and Qatar had been involved (I’m probably wrong). The whole thing has been very confusing.

Yes we're all terrible people.

Why are you on this thread if you don't want to talk about Israeli hostages? Do you find joy in lecturing people?

Well since you ask I do find it a bit distasteful.

Yes we're all terrible people.

Why are you on this thread if you don't want to talk about Israeli hostages? Do you find joy in lecturing people?

I didn't realise Qatar was the only mediator. I thought all this time the US was too

I understand people just wanted to discuss the topic of Israeli hostages without all that whataboutery all the time. Is that really so difficult to understand?

Describing other people suffering as “whataboutary” also comes across as dismissive. Is that difficult to understand?

This was what it said

Under the agreement, the mechanism to settle the conflicting claims should be that Israel and Hamas go to mediator Qatar, which will try and resolve it, he says.
Waghorn says there will likely not be any progress on the release of more hostages or Palestinian prisoners until that process is complete.
"Presumably, [Qatar] will try and work out why it happened, was it an accident - that these explosions happened by mistake - or was it deliberate, and then try and defuse the tensions and put the ceasefire back in place."
It's a "classic case" of one say side saying "they started it" and the other side saying, "no, you started it", Waghorn says.

oh those poor families.... I hope this is a quick resolve.

@StarbucksSmarterSister so iv just seen on sky that unfortunately it doesn't seem like anything can go ahead until this has been resolved
It seems most likely that both sides will have to take their claims on who broke the ceasefire and how to Qatar which will try and attempt to diffuse the situation

Sky also said its in both Israel's and Hamas's best interests to keep the truce atleast for these two days so I'm hoping it can be resolved

Especially as it was reported earlier that the families of the hostages that were supposed to be released today have already been informed

Other people are. Those poor victims who have been chased on the thread, according to you by the horrible people daring to talk about Israeli hostages.

Except I never said that the people chased off the thread were “poor victims” or that anyone who talked about hostages was horrible.

That's appalling, poor child.

I’m sorry you’re reading things into this.
I advised lobster of the relevant thread.
What I say and do on a thread unrelated to this is of no concern to this thread.
I was highlighting derailing……

Which hopefully will stop.
Any posters that come on here should also be directed away if they cause offence.

Meanwhile so many posts are being wasted discussing posts on the wrong thread…

There was no offence meant on this thread,

It’s certainly a bit galling to see posters on this thread talking about individual hostages and how you can’t stop thinking about them and how you can’t sleep at night for thinking about them.

Don't read it then.

Oh no, I missed this. Hopefully it can be overcome and the ceasefire continues and further hostages released.

@Readingallnight .... it's very strange that you come onto the thread with whataboutery and suggest people lack empathy, then go on the other thread and complain about this thread...

'Readingallnight · Today 12:51

Isee MN have changed the title
Thankyou @stormy4319trevor
Im sure we, here, can discuss everything with respect and without attacks and hate.
This should avoid further derailment as I noticed some popped over here ( after the Israeli hostage release and prior to the release of Palestinians ) to have exactly the same conversation that was going on on the ‘other’ thread in order to derail this thread…..again!
Well done to those who asked for respect and to leave.' This was your post.

It doesn't help anyone at all. Surely just allow people to post on the topic in the titles and leave it at that.

Again it makes no sense for you to continue to do this.

Sorry to derail this thread I'll try to ignore further attempts of whataboutery and requests for empathy proof in future.