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Israelis held hostage (part 2)

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StarbucksSmarterSister · 25/11/2023 18:50

Continuing

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EllaDisenchanted · 18/12/2023 18:38

new Hamas propaganda video released with three elderly male hostages (yoram metzger, 80, Chaim peri 79, Amiram Cooper 84, ). It is not known when the video was recorded
I’ve not seen the video. I’ve avoided watching the videos of the hostages for a lot of reasons.
If Yarden Bibas remains alive, his mental state worries me. He is living a nightmare.
I've also seen a clip from the hostage family meeting with the Red Cross, where one of the fathers begs them to take his sons asthma medication over. Don’t think it went well.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/hamas-releases-new-propaganda-video-showing-3-israeli-hostages/

XRAYTHIS · 17/12/2023 23:26

StarbucksSmarterSister · 17/12/2023 15:57

Footage has emerged of the kidnapping of Tanzanian hostage Joshua Mollel, plus a still (presumably from Hamas video too) of him dead or dying after that kidnapping ( the guy who stabbed him is standing next to his body, wearing civilian clothes). His body is believed to have been taken into Gaza.

Israel must be going inch by inch through the Hamas footage which is how they are confirming some of the deaths.

I'm not posting it obviously but it's on Twitter.

I've seen all the videos. It's quite clear it's the ordinary non uniform wearing Palestinian men who brutally kill him, call him a Jew, mess with his dead body and praise their God. Who says it is not religious is wrong. Watch the videos. It's brutal and he is slain because they think he is a Jew.

XRAYTHIS · 17/12/2023 23:13

stomachameleon · 17/12/2023 18:38

apple.news/ABLEbz75jSnO5Qzuj6fuDpA

Sinwar's brother and biggest tunnel uncovered that vehicles can drive down from border to Gaza city.

That's one of the tunnels that some said didn't exist.

SomeCatFromJapan · 17/12/2023 21:23

@StarbucksSmarterSister I have just accidentally seen the footage of the poor murdered boy.
How can any people be so awful, cruel and malicious? Just how?

stomachameleon · 17/12/2023 19:03

Hersch's mum has set up an email address so emails can be sent in the event of him coming home for him to read (I don't know how to write this as Hersch was so badly injured)

[email protected]

stomachameleon · 17/12/2023 18:38

apple.news/ABLEbz75jSnO5Qzuj6fuDpA

Sinwar's brother and biggest tunnel uncovered that vehicles can drive down from border to Gaza city.

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StarbucksSmarterSister · 17/12/2023 15:57

Footage has emerged of the kidnapping of Tanzanian hostage Joshua Mollel, plus a still (presumably from Hamas video too) of him dead or dying after that kidnapping ( the guy who stabbed him is standing next to his body, wearing civilian clothes). His body is believed to have been taken into Gaza.

Israel must be going inch by inch through the Hamas footage which is how they are confirming some of the deaths.

I'm not posting it obviously but it's on Twitter.

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Parkingt111 · 16/12/2023 23:28

@StarbucksSmarterSister I believe hostage negotiations may be possibly re-starting but I don't think we will hear much unless something is actually agreed upon

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StarbucksSmarterSister · 16/12/2023 23:20

EllaDisenchanted · 16/12/2023 18:28

Sirens in our area and booms from rockets as Shabbat came in. Shrapnel fell over the petrol station, but thank Gd didn’t explode.

Hope you're all ok.

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Parkingt111 · 16/12/2023 23:11

EllaDisenchanted · 16/12/2023 18:28

Sirens in our area and booms from rockets as Shabbat came in. Shrapnel fell over the petrol station, but thank Gd didn’t explode.

That sounds really scary. I'm glad you and your family are ok

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StarbucksSmarterSister · 16/12/2023 18:43

Oh ok. It said on Twitter. Confusion, obviously. Even more unbearable to have no body.

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EllaDisenchanted · 16/12/2023 18:30

StarbucksSmarterSister · 16/12/2023 18:13

Her dead body was discovered.

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@StarbucksSmarterSister I’m hearing her body still being held in Gaza, as her family are sitting shiva, but no levaya as no body to bury.

EllaDisenchanted · 16/12/2023 18:28

Sirens in our area and booms from rockets as Shabbat came in. Shrapnel fell over the petrol station, but thank Gd didn’t explode.

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StarbucksSmarterSister · 16/12/2023 18:13

Efacsen · 16/12/2023 17:46

And another @EllaDisenchanted Sad

The military-run network says Inbar Haiman 27, taken captive during the Hamas’s attack on southern Israel, has died in Gaza.

Her dead body was discovered.

Israelis held hostage (part 2)
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EllaDisenchanted · 16/12/2023 18:12

Baruch Dayan Haemes, Yehi Zichram Baruch 💔

Efacsen · 16/12/2023 17:46

And another @EllaDisenchanted Sad

The military-run network says Inbar Haiman 27, taken captive during the Hamas’s attack on southern Israel, has died in Gaza.

EllaDisenchanted · 16/12/2023 15:51

Yotam Chaim, Chaim Talalka, Alon Shamriz. Heartbreaking for all involved 💔

stomachameleon · 16/12/2023 14:53

It's a shame the news seem more interested in this than the holding of hostages themselves.

If they hadn't been taken they wouldn't have been there.

I continue to think of the families and the soldiers who will be forever racked with guilt.

Parker231 · 16/12/2023 14:00

Update on Sky News

Israelis held hostage (part 2)
Thisusernamenotavailable · 16/12/2023 13:37

It’s “deal now”. Iskah achshav

backtowinter · 16/12/2023 11:45

stomachameleon · 15/12/2023 20:05

I have seen some pictures of what led to them being shot and what led the soldiers to believe they were Hamas including clothing, dolls with Hebrew voices and crying. Children's clothes and backpacks. It was on insta.

It's barbaric and I hope this is not weaponised where the IDF are concerned. Those soldiers will have to carry the guilt of this and those hostages should never have been there.

Hamas really are despicable

stomachameleon · 15/12/2023 21:52

I am sure for the families who have been bereft since their loved ones were abducted and taken from them forcibly it is scant consolation. They shouldn't have been there.

PeasfullPerson · 15/12/2023 21:46

So much sadness and death. I don’t suppose it will be much consolation to the families that their loved ones were valued enough to be referred to by name. Peace seems so far away.

ScrollingLeaves · 15/12/2023 21:18

stomachameleon · 15/12/2023 20:05

I have seen some pictures of what led to them being shot and what led the soldiers to believe they were Hamas including clothing, dolls with Hebrew voices and crying. Children's clothes and backpacks. It was on insta.

It's barbaric and I hope this is not weaponised where the IDF are concerned. Those soldiers will have to carry the guilt of this and those hostages should never have been there.

I too have read about the Hebrew voices, intended to lead IDF soldiers into tunnels and the booby-trapped dolls and backpacks laid in the ambush.

But I think this accidental shooting was not directly part of one of those ambushes, though the tension and danger all around must certainly have been a factor. I think nine IDF soldiers were recently killed in an ambush in a building.

BBC or Channel 4 tonight had an interview with an IDF commander who explained the hostages were wearing the same sort of Palestinian civilian clothes that some Hamas wear who also have guns and grenades; and only just before the IDF had been in combat with Hamas.

It is so tragic for the hostage’s families. Imagine knowing they had managed to survive until now but all for this. I agree too that it is dreadful that the soldiers will have to carry that guilt all their lives.

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