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Conflict in the Middle East

Israelis held hostage (part 2)

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StarbucksSmarterSister · 25/11/2023 18:50

Continuing

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Stomacharmeleon · 30/11/2023 16:38

There is just no need for that.... at all.

Iwantcakeeveryday · 30/11/2023 16:28

Thats pretty terrible @Jupitersstorm

SomeCatFromJapan · 30/11/2023 16:03

@Stomacharmeleon the belief is that the father was held separately to the rest of the family.

EllaDisenchanted · 30/11/2023 15:59

I often get news from theofficialmeira on instagram. So far she has been reliable , and puts up corrections if she has incorrectly reported anything. She’s not a journalist officially, and I don’t know her, but this is one of my sources if anyone wants https://instagram.com/theofficialmeira?igshid=OGQ5ZDc2ODk2ZA==

Instagram

https://instagram.com/theofficialmeira?igshid=OGQ5ZDc2ODk2ZA==

Stomacharmeleon · 30/11/2023 15:50

Let's not speculate please.

EsmaCannonball · 30/11/2023 15:48

If the bodies of the Bibas family are returned, independent pathologists should look into the cause of death. Anything that Israel says won't be believed. I wouldn't put it past Hamas or another Gazan jihadi group to have crushed them to death themselves.

Stomacharmeleon · 30/11/2023 15:47

@SomeCatFromJapan is their dad hostage?

EllaDisenchanted · 30/11/2023 15:45

Family of Ofer tzarfati, kidnapped from Nova, have been informed that he was killed.

Livia dickman, 24, murdered this morning was heavily pregnant.

Thanks for updating re Mia Shem, and Amit Sousanna - have just seen they have arrived in Israel. No updates about anyone else.

Iwantcakeeveryday · 30/11/2023 15:33

SomeCatFromJapan · 30/11/2023 15:19

I've read the sad news that the bodies of the Bibas family will be returned this evening.
Glad to hear that two young women have been released though.

oh no, that is very sad news.

SomeCatFromJapan · 30/11/2023 15:19

I've read the sad news that the bodies of the Bibas family will be returned this evening.
Glad to hear that two young women have been released though.

Parkingt111 · 30/11/2023 15:13

@StarbucksSmarterSister sorry cross posted

Parkingt111 · 30/11/2023 15:12

Two Israeli hostages have been released and are now with the red cross
Doesn't mention names but suggests they are two women

StarbucksSmarterSister · 30/11/2023 15:11

Two handed over to the Red Cross

Mia Shem 21 ( did hostage video a while back, had been shot) and Amit Soussana, 40.

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StarbucksSmarterSister · 30/11/2023 14:42

SomeCatFromJapan · 30/11/2023 13:52

He might have no idea of what happened to her, and will have to endure that additional trauma and heartbreak if released.

He'll be devastated when he finds out. They truly are vile.

Meanwhile there are reports that they are now saying the two Russo-Israelis released last night as a gesture to Putin should actually count towards today.

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Depdawg · 30/11/2023 13:54

SomeCatFromJapan · 30/11/2023 13:52

He might have no idea of what happened to her, and will have to endure that additional trauma and heartbreak if released.

Hoping that he doesn't know, Cat.

SomeCatFromJapan · 30/11/2023 13:52

He might have no idea of what happened to her, and will have to endure that additional trauma and heartbreak if released.

Depdawg · 30/11/2023 13:48

StarbucksSmarterSister · 30/11/2023 13:31

I have just read that Shani Louk’s boyfriend, 30 year old Mexican tourist Orión Hernández Radoux, is one of the captives held by Hamas.

Helplessness for him all ways round.
Very sad.

StarbucksSmarterSister · 30/11/2023 13:31

I have just read that Shani Louk’s boyfriend, 30 year old Mexican tourist Orión Hernández Radoux, is one of the captives held by Hamas.

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XRAYTHIS · 30/11/2023 11:43

EllaDisenchanted · 30/11/2023 11:11

@Zoflorabore yes I am in Israel, we moved from the UK in 2022. Today I feel very numb and emotionally drained. I cried a lot last night, it will probably hit me later.

Safe - it's hard to answer, the first weeks after October 7th were traumatic. I mainly worried about my kids and keeping them safe, we were so on edge and on heightened alert, and the rockets seemed to happen every time we I ventured out. But it is impossible to sustain that level of high alert physically, and somehow you compartmentalise and you pick up and carry on. I still jump at every loud motorcycle (they sound like sirens) and boom though, and I frequently scan the skies when I walk. Struggling to focus on work as well.

There have been terror attacks all year this year. I am buying my younger kids dumb phones which I said I would never do (they're happy about that at least!), and I think it is highly likely there will be barrages of rockets once the ceasefire is over, so I am going to try restock the safe room. I don't feel safe, but I also don't think about it. I can't think, or I would be paralysed. I am grateful I live in an area that is not as heavily targeted.

One of my grandmothers lived through Kristallnacht, and then her family escaped to London, where they went through the Blitz. She died recently and she left a suitcase which included her school reports and some of her exercise books. This will out me to my family, but anyway, I was reading through her one of her essays and she wrote about music and complained about her brother endlessly practicing (he was a musician), her report cards had a lot of comments like 'if attendance was better...', her geography maps were beautifully drawn and coloured, and it struck me how ordinary her life was, while war raged on. Her Aunty's house was bombed, life was definitely not normal, but on some level, they got up, and they carried on.

Don't feel ashamed @Zoflorabore, times are hard, and one difficulty does not negate another.

Thanks everyone for your concern ❤

💐sending thoughts and best wishes
Hoping for a peaceful solution 🙏

Depdawg · 30/11/2023 11:28

EllaDisenchanted · 30/11/2023 11:11

@Zoflorabore yes I am in Israel, we moved from the UK in 2022. Today I feel very numb and emotionally drained. I cried a lot last night, it will probably hit me later.

Safe - it's hard to answer, the first weeks after October 7th were traumatic. I mainly worried about my kids and keeping them safe, we were so on edge and on heightened alert, and the rockets seemed to happen every time we I ventured out. But it is impossible to sustain that level of high alert physically, and somehow you compartmentalise and you pick up and carry on. I still jump at every loud motorcycle (they sound like sirens) and boom though, and I frequently scan the skies when I walk. Struggling to focus on work as well.

There have been terror attacks all year this year. I am buying my younger kids dumb phones which I said I would never do (they're happy about that at least!), and I think it is highly likely there will be barrages of rockets once the ceasefire is over, so I am going to try restock the safe room. I don't feel safe, but I also don't think about it. I can't think, or I would be paralysed. I am grateful I live in an area that is not as heavily targeted.

One of my grandmothers lived through Kristallnacht, and then her family escaped to London, where they went through the Blitz. She died recently and she left a suitcase which included her school reports and some of her exercise books. This will out me to my family, but anyway, I was reading through her one of her essays and she wrote about music and complained about her brother endlessly practicing (he was a musician), her report cards had a lot of comments like 'if attendance was better...', her geography maps were beautifully drawn and coloured, and it struck me how ordinary her life was, while war raged on. Her Aunty's house was bombed, life was definitely not normal, but on some level, they got up, and they carried on.

Don't feel ashamed @Zoflorabore, times are hard, and one difficulty does not negate another.

Thanks everyone for your concern ❤

Thank you for writing that.
I get the feeling that also helped you
share your ordeal. It makes most of us
Feel relieved at our sense of ordinary lives.
Sholom.

EllaDisenchanted · 30/11/2023 11:11

@Zoflorabore yes I am in Israel, we moved from the UK in 2022. Today I feel very numb and emotionally drained. I cried a lot last night, it will probably hit me later.

Safe - it's hard to answer, the first weeks after October 7th were traumatic. I mainly worried about my kids and keeping them safe, we were so on edge and on heightened alert, and the rockets seemed to happen every time we I ventured out. But it is impossible to sustain that level of high alert physically, and somehow you compartmentalise and you pick up and carry on. I still jump at every loud motorcycle (they sound like sirens) and boom though, and I frequently scan the skies when I walk. Struggling to focus on work as well.

There have been terror attacks all year this year. I am buying my younger kids dumb phones which I said I would never do (they're happy about that at least!), and I think it is highly likely there will be barrages of rockets once the ceasefire is over, so I am going to try restock the safe room. I don't feel safe, but I also don't think about it. I can't think, or I would be paralysed. I am grateful I live in an area that is not as heavily targeted.

One of my grandmothers lived through Kristallnacht, and then her family escaped to London, where they went through the Blitz. She died recently and she left a suitcase which included her school reports and some of her exercise books. This will out me to my family, but anyway, I was reading through her one of her essays and she wrote about music and complained about her brother endlessly practicing (he was a musician), her report cards had a lot of comments like 'if attendance was better...', her geography maps were beautifully drawn and coloured, and it struck me how ordinary her life was, while war raged on. Her Aunty's house was bombed, life was definitely not normal, but on some level, they got up, and they carried on.

Don't feel ashamed @Zoflorabore, times are hard, and one difficulty does not negate another.

Thanks everyone for your concern ❤

Depdawg · 30/11/2023 10:32

SomeCatFromJapan · 30/11/2023 09:57

News reporting that the two bedouin siblings Aisha and Belal are to be released today

Oh thank goodness.

Wonderful.

Zoflorabore · 30/11/2023 10:24

@EllaDisenchanted sorry I must’ve missed where you said you are in Israel, is that correct?

do you feel safe? I can’t stop thinking about the situation and being so grateful where I live. Had to give my head a wobble earlier as was panicking as got no money until tomorrow when dp gets paid and I need to buy x/y/z and I felt so thoroughly ashamed of myself when I’m safe, warm and have a roof over my head.

I have never had such little faith in humanity as I do right now. Surely there is no lower these people can sink? I hope that karma gets to them soon.

Iwantcakeeveryday · 30/11/2023 10:12

I hope you're ok @EllaDisenchanted and thank you to everyone for the updates.

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