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Conflict in the Middle East

Israelis held hostage (part 2)

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StarbucksSmarterSister · 25/11/2023 18:50

Continuing

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EsmaCannonball · 30/11/2023 19:10

Yes, I've seen the footage of the Hamas terrorists telling the hostages, including children, to smile and wave.

StarbucksSmarterSister · 30/11/2023 19:06

Hamas has published a video of Yarden Bibas.

Bloody bastards. Why don't they just let him go now?

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Stomacharmeleon · 30/11/2023 18:39

@FromEden I second that.

FromEden · 30/11/2023 17:38

In one of the earlier videos you can hear a hamas gunman saying "keep smiling". What would you do in that situation?Anyone who thinks the hostages have genuine affection towards their captors is an idiot

Kaffeebitte · 30/11/2023 17:32

I think they are just acting how they’ve been told to. Hamas have complete control over them. And are in no doubt in deep trauma shock hence the calmness. It’s flight or fight effect. The pain comes later. I was reading also somewhere well before this that the concept of Stockholm Syndrome has been debunked.

The New Statesman has some interesting articles this week about Israel and Jewishness, including in one a mention of how important it is in Jewish history to record peoples’ stories. These experiences will be properly told one day I hope.

hope you’re doing ok @EllaDisenchanted

Iwantcakeeveryday · 30/11/2023 17:20

EllaDisenchanted · 30/11/2023 17:08

Meant to add her release video she looks ca and is smiling (likely told to, her brother was in captivity still). The contrast between that and the video that’s been released where she sees her family is chilling. Her sobs were gut wrenching.

yes, I watched that just now. All this pain is heartbreaking.

Stomacharmeleon · 30/11/2023 17:19

@Parkingt111 thank you.

Humdingerydoo · 30/11/2023 17:17

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Yes, it's almost like they've been told to smile and high five their captors or else they will come and kill their families. Well, whatever remains of their family. Not that the hostages will be aware if they still have family or not at that point.

Iwantcakeeveryday · 30/11/2023 17:14

SomeCatFromJapan · 30/11/2023 16:48

@Stomacharmeleon this bit of footage. Awesome woman.
https://twitter.com/EylonALevy/status/1729817548294590801

wow, that is brave, I bet she is angry, as she has every right to be!

Parkingt111 · 30/11/2023 17:11

@Plusplus ok maybe I didn't word it well
@EllaDisenchanted explained it much better than myself thank you

EllaDisenchanted · 30/11/2023 17:11

Still nothing on the other hostages.

Im trying not to stress. I keep seeing that Hamas have taken responsibility for today’s terrorism. Does that mean they’ve broken the ceasefire? Nothing on Aisha and Belal, they were supposed to be released tonight.

EllaDisenchanted · 30/11/2023 17:08

Meant to add her release video she looks ca and is smiling (likely told to, her brother was in captivity still). The contrast between that and the video that’s been released where she sees her family is chilling. Her sobs were gut wrenching.

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EllaDisenchanted · 30/11/2023 17:05

They have family members still in captivity, they are in shock and traumatised beyond belief, they don’t look calm, they look numb and dissociated.
look up the video of maya regev meeting her family in her hospital bed and listen to her sobbing, it was gut wrenching. I’m not posting it here.

Parkingt111 · 30/11/2023 17:05

@Plusplus because it will derail the thread and it is
So what how they were treated
They shouldn't have been taken in the first place

backtowinter · 30/11/2023 17:04

Jupitersstorm · 30/11/2023 16:14

A baying mob.

Apologists will probably say they're not a baying mob, they're cheering the hostages.

Another reminder that Hamas does not exist in isolation

Plusplus · 30/11/2023 17:03

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Efacsen · 30/11/2023 17:02

@Plusplus

Stockholm syndrome
Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Stockholm_syndrome

Stockholm syndrome is a proposed condition or theory that tries to explain why hostages sometimes develop a psychological bond with their captors.

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Norrmalmstorg robbery - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norrmalmstorg_robbery

Parkingt111 · 30/11/2023 17:00

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Please ask mumsnet to remove this

It's insensitive

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EllaDisenchanted · 30/11/2023 16:56

X post @SomeCatFromJapan!
Worth seeing the full video

SomeCatFromJapan · 30/11/2023 16:48

@Stomacharmeleon this bit of footage. Awesome woman.
https://twitter.com/EylonALevy/status/1729817548294590801

https://twitter.com/EylonALevy/status/1729817548294590801

Stomacharmeleon · 30/11/2023 16:43

I don't know how to repost Instagrams but there is a brilliant bit of footage of Rimon kirsht facing down her captors on 'your Jewish life'
The smallest nation is the biggest family.

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