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"If we killed 4000 Palestinian kids it wasn't enough."

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FOJN · 22/11/2023 14:47

Stuart Seldowitz, former Deputy Director of the US State Department's Office for Israel and Palestinian Affairs from 1999 - 2003, filmed on multiple occasions harassing a food seller in Manhattan.

How do these people get promoted to positions of authority?

Former US official harasses street food seller with Islamophobic comments

Stuart Seldowitz, who was deputy director of the US State Department’s Office of Israel and Palestinian Affairs from 1999 to 2003, was filmed berating a hala...

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3and2ready · 23/11/2023 12:53

Humanity is not lost.

"If we killed 4000 Palestinian kids it wasn't enough."
"If we killed 4000 Palestinian kids it wasn't enough."
notsoready4school · 23/11/2023 08:36

I have just learnt that it is Islamophobia awareness month, had no idea of that. Given these types of incidents are hugely underreported and not taken seriously unless violence is involved, there should be a way to highlight the issue so the government could given funding dedicated to this issue as well. Missing will definitely be experiencing a heightened level of aggression as they always do after terrorist attacks

There are 4m Muslims in the UK and even a small percentage increase in incidents would be a huge number, especially given the public facing roles so many are in.

notsoready4school · 23/11/2023 08:26

headhurtstoomuch · 23/11/2023 07:44

Thankfully the racist has been arrested but apparently when the vendor first reported him to the police they said they couldn't do anything.

I wonder if it was recorded as a hate crime/ Islamophobic incident even.

These racial incidents that occur to many Muslim shop keepers, takeaway owners, Uber drivers, service staff etc most rarely if ever get reported. And even if they did, the police will only get involved if they get violent. Most likely not even reported.

headhurtstoomuch · 23/11/2023 07:44

Thankfully the racist has been arrested but apparently when the vendor first reported him to the police they said they couldn't do anything.

youngones1 · 23/11/2023 07:43

What a vile racist.

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 23/11/2023 07:30

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Ohlalalalala · 23/11/2023 06:26

FOJN · 23/11/2023 05:58

I was wrong, he's been arrested.

I'm surprised and relieved to find that sometimes hateful people, who think they are untouchable, don't actually get away with it.

They didn't have any choice but to arrest him. He's not any randomer drug addict, and besides the videos of him went viral. It was clear from the start that there were many grounds for prosecution.

He is now facing multiple charges, including aggravated harassment, hate crime and stalking.

Kudos to the vendor for showing so much restrain for someone his age. It seemed to me the psycho was trying to provoke him into reacting. He would have certainly won in my case and I would have been arrested instead of him.

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 23/11/2023 06:17

They seem like people and the food looks lovely. I don’t know about harassment law in the USA but clearly this awful man is now being dealt with.

FOJN · 23/11/2023 05:58

I was wrong, he's been arrested.

I'm surprised and relieved to find that sometimes hateful people, who think they are untouchable, don't actually get away with it.

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ScrollingLeaves · 22/11/2023 23:01

FOJN · 22/11/2023 14:47

Stuart Seldowitz, former Deputy Director of the US State Department's Office for Israel and Palestinian Affairs from 1999 - 2003, filmed on multiple occasions harassing a food seller in Manhattan.

How do these people get promoted to positions of authority?

How indeed.
If he was in charge of the US State Department's Office for Israel and Palestinian Affairs from 1999 - 2003, one can be sure he furthered harm to Palestinians.

eester · 22/11/2023 22:42

Shocking bigotry. How can anyone think its ok to behave like that?

lotus786 · 22/11/2023 22:02

Vile vile human being. I hope he gets exactly what he deserves. The street vendor is a saint for keeping calm and so well mannered in the presence of such a hateful man and to think he was an advisor on the Middle East is terrifying.

stormy4319trevor · 22/11/2023 21:28

HaveALaff · 22/11/2023 21:18

If these are the people in charge then what hope do we have. I feel like those in charge are the most racist and abusive. We see it time and time again.

Can't believe anyone on mumsnet would ever attempt to excuse this man. Very worrying.

I was thinking earlier that there are not many good governments that I know of - they often seem ineffectual, corrupt and unprincipled. I hear good things about Norway, but I really don't know how satisfied people are with them. Makes me wonder what is wrong with political systems, and the people who work in them! There's too much opportunity to make money dishonestly and promote unhinged agendas,

HaveALaff · 22/11/2023 21:18

If these are the people in charge then what hope do we have. I feel like those in charge are the most racist and abusive. We see it time and time again.

Can't believe anyone on mumsnet would ever attempt to excuse this man. Very worrying.

Flowersfield · 22/11/2023 20:41

Whats scary is these are the kind of people in power that are currently not agreeing to a ceasefire.

3and2ready · 22/11/2023 20:27

Tigerteal · 22/11/2023 20:19

It’s simple
white men= mentally ill
brown men= terrorist

those women on the other thread are racist to say that

I know. That’s what I’m still shocked about. Wtaf.

Tigerteal · 22/11/2023 20:19

It’s simple
white men= mentally ill
brown men= terrorist

those women on the other thread are racist to say that

stormy4319trevor · 22/11/2023 20:10

How did this man end up working for the government! Terrifying people like this have power.

3and2ready · 22/11/2023 18:49

ColadhSamh · 22/11/2023 18:37

Means no harm? How can anyone think that. It was a sustained and lenghty attack clearly designed to provoke. Unfortunately for him he didn't get the reaction he hoped for but fortunate for us that we get to see his real persona.
The best revenge is what we are witnessing now, exposure of an arrogant arsehole who was clearly intent on intimidating and harassing. To think that he was in the position he was. What hope do the Palestinian people have?

Exactly. He is pure evil. He found a hardworking young Muslim immigrant and began to racially attack him and his religion. This is not a mentally ill man, he is a sadistic bully. You can see pure evil in his eyes. Lots of people on X mentioned that there’s an eerie Hannibal lector look about him and I totally agree. But for someone to watch the video and express sympathy for him and say his eyes show he is unwell 🤮

ColadhSamh · 22/11/2023 18:37

Means no harm? How can anyone think that. It was a sustained and lenghty attack clearly designed to provoke. Unfortunately for him he didn't get the reaction he hoped for but fortunate for us that we get to see his real persona.
The best revenge is what we are witnessing now, exposure of an arrogant arsehole who was clearly intent on intimidating and harassing. To think that he was in the position he was. What hope do the Palestinian people have?

3and2ready · 22/11/2023 18:28

On another thread, there were at least 2-3 mumsnet posters saying he’s a mentally ill man and he means no harm 🤢. No harm? He’s showing signs of being a sadistic, evil extremist by mocking Islam and being outright racist and the mumsnet posters are talking about how he’s done nothing wrong. I couldn’t believe the audacity of these posters. He’s not mentally ill, ffs he’s rascist. He’s saying out loud and proud that 4k Palestinian children deserved to be killed and that he regrets more weren’t killed and these deluded posters are actually sympathising with him. They sound as vulgar and horrible as he is, if they are sympathising with him. I am still shocked that some posters on mumsnet are as racist and deluded as he is. What they didn’t realise is the backlash and outrage on social media because of this man’s vulgar racist attack. I said it on the other thread and I will say it again here, thank god evil people like that only hide out behind screens and keyboards here and don’t make themselves known in real life.

FOJN · 22/11/2023 18:13

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Ohlalalalala · 22/11/2023 18:09

The Manhattan-based Gotham Government Relations firm said on Tuesday that it would cut all ties with Stuart Seldowitz, who worked in the US Department of State’s Office of Israel and Palestinian Affairs from 1999 to 2003 and later at the national security council during the Obama administration, after he was filmed harassing an Upper East Side street vendor.

Ohlalalalala · 22/11/2023 18:07

Former state department official loses job after Islamophobic tirade at New York street vendor

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/nov/22/stuart-seldowitz-ex-state-official-attack-food-vendor-racist-islamophobic-new-york

Yes!!!!

A New York political lobbying firm has offered to represent a halal street food vendor who was recently subjected to a sustained racist attack by one of its own consultants, a former state department official, in the latest encounter reflecting tension in the city over the Israel-Hamas conflict.

Former state department official loses job after Islamophobic tirade at New York street vendor

Halal food worker might soon be able to take legal action against the explicit and racist abuse after the attacker’s firm offered free representation

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/nov/22/stuart-seldowitz-ex-state-official-attack-food-vendor-racist-islamophobic-new-york