Israeli state TV video shows children singing about Gaza

@HistoryBuff2
This will be a long post to rebut some of your points.

do not represent the views of the overwhelming majority of Israelis Right wing Zionists are in power in Israel - we’re told it’s a democracy and this is their elected government and this is how the leaders think. It’s not what we see in Manhattan or Brooklyn or New York or Manchester, places that have substantial Jewish populations so it can’t really be about religion/ ethnicity . These children reflect the values of the adults in charge.Its obvious that they extremists but it is an extremist regime.

Hamas is bad but continues to enjoy grassroots support of sorts Hamas ruled Gaza because Netanyahu funded and encouraged Hamas in order to undermine the prospect of a more moderate and more secular peace partner emerging. This is because he has never accepted the two started solution. So now your post kind of hints that the Palestinians are getting what they deserve because Hamas are so dreadful. What is happening to Palestinians is morally wrong. Civilians deaths on this scale are inexcusable.
Thanks to Netanyahu, there is no viable alternative to Hamas and Hamas are willing to fight the Netanyahu government to the death.

Hamas doesn’t need to “endoctrinate” or indoctrinate children- Israel does the heavy lifting for them. More than a thousand Gazan children were permanently disabled by Israel in 2014, 3000+ wounded. The independent panel found only 3.8% of textbooks used by the half million kids that UNWRA was educating gave concern.

impact.se This is an Israeli NGO. One of its key people, Marcus Sheff, was formerly CEO of The Israel Project , described by one critic as seeming “ to exist for no other reason than to spotlight the very worst aspects of Muslim societies.". Impact only looks at Islamic education in general, although it 2/12 of its publications address Israeli schools.Impact’s publication should not be confused with the independent panel’s report. I’ve read the 54 pages- have you?

MEMRI was founded by an ex IDF intelligence agent Yigal Carmon and Israeli born Meyer Wurmser. The latter one of the authors of the “Clean Break” neoconservative Zionist report which was prepared for Netanyahu in 2003, basically recommending rejecting the peace accord.

Guardian journalist, Brian Whittaker has said of MEMRI”poses as a research institute when it's basically a propaganda operation”

According to Wikipedia “. Critics have accused MEMRI of producing inaccurate, unreliable translations with undue emphasis and selectivity in translating and disseminating the most extreme views from Arabic and Persian media, which portray the Arab and Muslim world in a negative light, while ignoring moderate views that are often found in the same media outlets” and several credible examples are listed.

The first precept of studying history is to remain impartial. It appears this fundamental principle is lacking in your analysis.

I am neither Palestinian or Jewish but I’ve done a couple of degrees in History and Political Science and I’m sort of horrified by the way people have such strong opinions on such a complex morally difficult conflict that they don’t understand at all. Those are the children of settlers in Israeli society settlers are mainly considered extremists they don’t reflect the views of most Israelis AT ALL and unlike other Israelis they’re mostly not required/mandatorily drafted to serve in the IDF. In fact, most normal Israelis have some level resentment because they feel that the settlers are a tiny minority of people who cause a lot of problems and get a lot of concessions because often they’re backed by major American money and not only do regular Israelis have to sacrifice themselves a to defend them but they don’t appreciate the IDF and hurl abuse at the soldiers sent to protect them. So yeah these are the children of the most extreme elements in Israeli society that do not represent the views of the overwhelming majority of Israelis.

By contrast, in Gaza under Hamas (which is an Iranian/Muslim Brotherhood proxy group exactly like ISIS) Hamas controls every single aspect of life in Gaza from distribution of essential goods to the education of children to what journalists may and may not cover while in Gaza. They’ve developed the most sophisticated underground tunnel system and civilian human shield infrastructure the world has ever seen and this has been extensively chronicled by NATO, Westpoint analysts and military intel in every G8 county and it’s not propaganda it’s a fact that’s been extensively documented.

While Hamas does not represent ALL Palestinians in Gaza just after October 7th, polls showed that they did enjoy a roughly 70% approval rate which is more than any world leader in any G8 country and it’s been extensively well documented for the past decade and a half that they’ve used their absolute chokehold on the Gaza Strip (after Israel withdrew form Gaza) to endoctrinate Gazan children. Every day on Palestinian television presenters praise the virtue of Martyrdom when it kills Jews in the name of Allah, in the West Bank and in Gaza the families of martyrs are given large bribes for family members who commit suicide attacks on Israeli civilians and also enjoy prestige, the fact that someone would say that it’s ridiculous to raise this as a counterpoint to this video is insane - the level of disturbing indoctrination is not comparable. Just a few of many sources documenting this:

New York Post: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1sDZlo_hllI&pp=ygUcZ2F6YSBraW5kZXJnYXJ0ZW4gZ3JhZHVhdGlvbg%3D%3D

News segment: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gM07qFvcTE8

MEMRI is an org that provides translation of middle eastern and southeast Asian television and speeches so that the sources can be studied and they’ve helpfully rounded up some primary sources: https://www.memri.org/reports/hamas-indoctrination-children-jihad-martyrdom-hatred-jews

https://www.timesofisrael.com/kill-all-jews-urges-hamas-tv-host/amp/

Here is an analysis of UNRWA funded textbooks and teaching materials: https://www.impact-se.org/wp-content/uploads/UNRWA-Beit-Hanoun-Schools_18.1-Final.pdf

I haven't listened to the song but I have heard about it from Israeli media, where everyone I've heard of condemns it. Of course it's disgusting. It's not representative of how the vast majority of Israelis feel though. My family in Israel are relatively right-wing (I am more of a lefty) but not even they think this song is appropriate.

I see a lot of posters on here saying that Israel always accuses Palestinians of things they themselves do - did no one else see the videos of Palestinians celebrating the massacre on 7th October? Did it just pass you all by? The same thing happened after 9/11. Stop gaslighting by saying that doesn't happen. It does. It's not just Israelis who are capable of despicable hatred. Palestinians are too. It's really quite absurd that people seem to pretend otherwise.

*Cue people exclaiming "oh but they were only celebrating because they've been oppressed for so long", pretending that Israelis haven't also suffered and been blown up by suicide bombs etc in that same time period, and that the decision to celebrate the murder of others is perfectly reasonable. But only for one side.

The video has been actively and widely condemned in Israel.

I don't remember saying all Palestinians supported Hamas' massacre and taking hostages. Please point out where I said it so I can edit my comment. Thanks.

This song doesn’t represent the sentiment in Israel but what some did after 7-10 represents what Palestinians feel?

I haven't listened to the song but I have heard about it from Israeli media, where everyone I've heard of condemns it. Of course it's disgusting. It's not representative of how the vast majority of Israelis feel though. My family in Israel are relatively right-wing (I am more of a lefty) but not even they think this song is appropriate.

I see a lot of posters on here saying that Israel always accuses Palestinians of things they themselves do - did no one else see the videos of Palestinians celebrating the massacre on 7th October? Did it just pass you all by? The same thing happened after 9/11. Stop gaslighting by saying that doesn't happen. It does. It's not just Israelis who are capable of despicable hatred. Palestinians are too. It's really quite absurd that people seem to pretend otherwise.

*Cue people exclaiming "oh but they were only celebrating because they've been oppressed for so long", pretending that Israelis haven't also suffered and been blown up by suicide bombs etc in that same time period, and that the decision to celebrate the murder of others is perfectly reasonable. But only for one side.

'We are coming to Gaza. We are coming to Lebanon. We will come to Iran. We will come everywhere'

Shay Golden, on Israel's Channel 14, threatens Palestinians, stating that they can't imagine how many will be killed and slaughtered. He states that these killings will not be witnessed in all Arab history.

Golden further elaborates that even if Israel needed to boycott the entire world, they would be 'prepared to fight the United States and the entire world'

Evil disgusting monster!

You are comparing that crowd of out of control vicious Palestian adults going berserk after the Hamas massacre with a an adult organised brushed and polished group of smiling child singers singing about annihilating Palestinian.

They are different very different sorts of groups. Nothing can compare with the horror of that jeering crowd, but the cleaned up, manipulated Israeli children’s’ version is also really very sinister.

As for other like for like comparisons there is a vast discrepancy between Palestinian deaths and Israeli deaths over the last 75 years.

I haven't listened to the song but I have heard about it from Israeli media, where everyone I've heard of condemns it. Of course it's disgusting. It's not representative of how the vast majority of Israelis feel though. My family in Israel are relatively right-wing (I am more of a lefty) but not even they think this song is appropriate.

I see a lot of posters on here saying that Israel always accuses Palestinians of things they themselves do - did no one else see the videos of Palestinians celebrating the massacre on 7th October? Did it just pass you all by? The same thing happened after 9/11. Stop gaslighting by saying that doesn't happen. It does. It's not just Israelis who are capable of despicable hatred. Palestinians are too. It's really quite absurd that people seem to pretend otherwise.

*Cue people exclaiming "oh but they were only celebrating because they've been oppressed for so long", pretending that Israelis haven't also suffered and been blown up by suicide bombs etc in that same time period, and that the decision to celebrate the murder of others is perfectly reasonable. But only for one side.

I haven't listened to the song but I have heard about it from Israeli media, where everyone I've heard of condemns it. Of course it's disgusting. It's not representative of how the vast majority of Israelis feel though. My family in Israel are relatively right-wing (I am more of a lefty) but not even they think this song is appropriate.

I see a lot of posters on here saying that Israel always accuses Palestinians of things they themselves do - did no one else see the videos of Palestinians celebrating the massacre on 7th October? Did it just pass you all by? The same thing happened after 9/11. Stop gaslighting by saying that doesn't happen. It does. It's not just Israelis who are capable of despicable hatred. Palestinians are too. It's really quite absurd that people seem to pretend otherwise.

*Cue people exclaiming "oh but they were only celebrating because they've been oppressed for so long", pretending that Israelis haven't also suffered and been blown up by suicide bombs etc in that same time period, and that the decision to celebrate the murder of others is perfectly reasonable. But only for one side.