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That’s the lamest conspiracy nonsense I’ve even seen. And it’s had about 3 responses since it was posted on the 12th November.

A German lady speaking about her nephews death.

www.instagram.com/reel/CzjXE8fow-C/?igshid=N2ViNmM2MDRjNw==

If terrorists marauded through your neighborhood killing and torturing people you know, you would not be saying anything different to what the people in that video are saying. So get off your high horses.

I would be saying different. So have many of the families of the victims of Hamas and the hostages of Hamas as they have been protesting for a ceasefire. Most human beings do not want blood revenge to the point of killing every man, woman and child of the same ethnicity of a group of attackers that murdered members of your family.

Stop justifying genocidal intent. Stop conflating the private reaction of a grieving person with the public call to arms of a political leader who should know better and be better.

Plenty of people in there who are not even cabinet ministers.

Do you honestly think America's leaders were saying anything different in 2001? Do you think Arab leaders have been saying anything different about Israel for the last 75 years? It's the Middle East, there is always lots of rhetoric and strong language.

Do you not realise that basically EVERYONE in Israel lost people they knew in that attack?

If terrorists marauded through your neighborhood killing and torturing people you know, you would not be saying anything different to what the people in that video are saying. So get off your high horses.

I agree that some of the far right Israeli government ministers have no business being in government as far as I'm concerned, but Israel has its own internal problems and over half the population wanted Netanyahu out a long time ago. To hang onto power he got all these extreme elements to form a coalition.

Everyone wants the war over, the hostages back and Hamas out.

Yes it's been horrendous and any death is horrendous, let alone the amount there has been, but the constant stoking of Israeli and Jew hatred and painting Israelis as monsters does not help the situation.

www.peacecomms.org/gaza#whispered-in-gaza

@Towerofsong
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4) He (the terrorist) said the gunmen had no prior knowledge of the peace festival. Absolute nonsense. They went in shooting and flushed people out and they already had all the exits covered. This was a well planned operation ahead of time.*

It has been reported that Hamas had no prior knowledge to the festival taking place as the date of the Nova festival changed last minute. They found out by drones and parachutes on the day.

Here are some sources you might find useful to back this up.

www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-11-18/ty-article/.premium/israeli-security-establishment-hamas-likely-didnt-have-prior-knowledge-of-nova-festival/0000018b-e2ee-d168-a3ef-f7fe8ca20000

www.middleeastmonitor.com/20231119-hamas-didnt-know-about-music-festival-in-advance-says-israel-police/

www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/tv-police-probe-of-reim-massacre-shows-terrorists-didnt-know-about-party-in-advance/

@Edinburghmusing
You might want to take a look at this report into the horrific crimes committed by Israel. It details the treatment of detained Palestinian children by the Israeli authority.

go.skimresources.com?id=470X1716091&xs=1&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.refworld.org%2Fpdfid%2F46c190460.pdf%5B%2Fquote&sref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.mumsnet.com%2Ftalk%2Fconflict-in-the-middle-east%2F4942068-be-aware-of-misinformation-seen-regarding-palestine%3Freply%3D130906552

1. It says injured not deaths.
2. It's a Turkish website, they aren't exactly neutral.
3. It is based on a report given by a Hamas terrorist under interview. Hardly the most credible source.
4. He (the terrorist) said the gunmen had no prior knowledge of the peace festival. Absolute nonsense. They went in shooting and flushed people out and they already had all the exits covered. This was a well planned operation ahead of time.

How about waiting for official investigations down the line instead of reporting what an organisation said that a newspaper said that a terrorist said.

Unless of course your antisemitism is so fucking strong that you just want to blame Israelis for their own deaths in October 7th.

What absolute nonsense. If you knew a single Palestinian woman or followed anyone on social media (gazan girl, byplestia) you would know this is a patent lie.

Good article on the history which raises the important question of if Israel’s previous actions created the Hamas we have today, what are their current actions going to create?

https://time.com/6324221/hamas-origins-history/

wipe them out completely and leave no memory of them

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Can't believe people are sticking to "but Israel is a benevolent government that gives Gazans everything..."

Hopefully

I don't believe everything I read. On either side

www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/israeli-helicopter-opened-fire-on-israelis-in-festival-during-hamas-attack-on-oct-7-report/3058257

One of many articles stating the outcome of the Israeli investigation into the tragic events on 7th October. The IDF were responsible for a number of the deaths that occurred.

Please have a listen to Lauren Dubois.

www.instagram.com/reel/Cz0n7-qpcPV/?igshid=N2ViNmM2MDRjNw==

Yes, Israel wanted Hamas to disrupt the healthy progress Yasser Arafat was making . . .
Blowback: How Israel Went From Helping Create Hamas to Bombing It (theintercept.com)

We can only hope that one day they will be tried for war crimes.

That won't bring Palestinian lives back or the beautiful, beautiful, country that has been destroyed by Israel and dehumanised by the world. But it will bring some semblance of justice.

For those Pro Israeli when will you condemn them?

Below is a video of an Israeli settler running over Israeli protestors.

www.instagram.com/reel/CzzjZ_TIP8j/?igshid=N2ViNmM2MDRjNw==

They are an awful lot - not only in their dehumanising attitude towards Palestinians, but of late they have been trying to make Israel increasingly into an undemocratic theocracy, taking away judicial independents and privileging certain types of Judaism over others.

Yes. Can you tell me why 2 million civilians should be bombed indiscriminately and deprived of food, water, medical care and places to shelter because of the actions of a terrorist organisation that the Israeli government lost control of after they supported and funded it to cause division in Palestinian politics and destroy the possibility of a two state solution?

Yep. The phrase fuck around and find out comes to mind.

What Hamas did was appalling but what Israel is doing is appalling

Have any of you watched the footage of the Has massacre?