The JC: Sacha Baron Cohen says ‘Tiktok is creating the biggest antisemitic movement since the Nazis‘

Agree@Happyvalleyfan
what has happened to people to think any of this is acceptable.
Too much screen time viewing hate.

SBC was pretty racist. Agree that he isn't the right commentator.

I sitll think freedom of speech on Tiktok, MN and everywhere is very important even if people don't like the views expressed. I want everyone to be free to lampoon all religions and none without getting blown up or visited by the police etc. however any crime of anti semitism or any other offences against the Equality Act 2010 in the UK is a different matter.

Yeah that's probably true, but I don't think you can blame him for people apparently repeating some of the obviously satirical anti-Semitic slogans non ironically.

And either way it doesn't make him wrong about Tiktok.

You mean if a Muslim created a caricature of an Islamophobe and had them sing "throw the Muslims down the well"? I don't see why that would be a problem

I think* *problem with Borat is he wasn’t just dealing with Jewish themes. The people in Kazakhstan were apparently not very happy with him and banned his films.

You mean if a Muslim created a caricature of an Islamophobe and had them sing "throw the Muslims down the well"? I don't see why that would be a problem.

Not an expert on Borat but I remember Alf Garnett (yes, I’m old) and how a lot of the people he was actually meant to be satirising really liked him because they agreed with the offensive stuff he came out with.

I think the expressions of anti-semitism has been vandalism, verbal abuse, security at school (given schools and synagogues have been attacked elsewhere). I don’t think the average pro Palestinian protesters are suffering that kind of harrassment, not sure any schools have had to get security in or paint thrown on their walls etc.

I think it should be pretty easy to condemn anti-semitism as appalling in the same way we would condemn islamaphobia. If you find yourself trying to justify either you are suffering from moral rot.

Also BSC - as a Jew I think it’s fine he satirises his own race.

I am not sure others find his humour funny when he pokes fun at their culture. So no, he’s not the right person to preach on racist diatribe.

https://www.newarab.com/opinion/there-nothing-funny-about-racism-borat?amp

I don’t think you fully understand what satire is, don’t ever read “A modest proposal”, you’ll be horrified.

But what about the ordinary person who is pro Palestine and keeps getting labelled as antisemitic for saying Israel is committing war crimes or a genocide? Islamophobia is on the rise, even those who are neutral through this are being labelled as antisemitic and told they are pro Hamas.

Do you mean the one that a racist singer was singing for the IDF making misogynistic comments about Palestinian women that I won’t repeat here?
You really do need to get out more if this is looks like fun to you! Or perhaps you dont mind racism as long as it’s not antisemitic? Or is this satire too?

https://bnn.network/world/israel/outcry-over-israeli-singers-controversial-remarks-about-gaza-during-idf-performance/

I think a lot of people would think he is anti semitic especially if they don't speak very good English.

He's Jewish, he was making fun of anti-Semites. If people take it literally that's on them.

He is a racist hypocrite. However if any criticism of Israel is now called antiemetic especially at the moment whilst they are committing genocide it’s not surprising people are speaking up despite the risk of being cancelled.

Quite right @feralunderclass its absolutely disgusting allowing this to be sung. What is wrong with people !

Ok tangent, but have you scrolled down on OP’s link to read the story about the IDF soldiers having a party with a singer? I just watched the clip, and I’m so jealous! I haven’t been to a good party in many years and it looks so fun.

Spewing bile? Yes I will leave the thread. I'm not embarrassed at all, just shocked. I wouldn't have ever let any pupil sing this song in the name of 'satire' .

The greatest driver of antisemitism is actual antisemites. So maybe call them out instead of a Jewish satirist who is very clearly not antisemitic. I mean, there's plenty of it going about so not hard to find and call out, maybe start with the Bin Laden-loving TikTok crowd.

I give up.

Off to watch some Borat ...

Is it only acceptable because he's Jewish? If he was Muslim would it also be a mocking, joke? If you look on the comments on YouTube, many obviously didn't realize it was satire.
I don't find things like this funny, unless it is strictly for the intended audience. To put it out there on a public platform I do think is very much a potential driver for antisemitism.

Lots of satirists.....