The JC: Sacha Baron Cohen says ‘Tiktok is creating the biggest antisemitic movement since the Nazis‘

There needs to be another ceasefire, to prevent a catastrophic humanitarian crisis.

‘Tiktok is creating the biggest antisemitic movement since the Nazis‘

No it isn’t and here’s why I think that = not whataboutery

or

be that as it may, censorship is unlikely to be a solution = also not whataboutery

there are a number of other far more interesting ways to respond or disagree with the quote from SBC without resorting to whataboutery

Nah, I think those examples you give would still be criticised if anyone actually posted them.

Wasn’t there a ceasefire when Hamas murdered, tortured and raped men, women, children and babies on Oct 7th?

No they aren’t.

You're fucking well trying though
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SBC is a very intelligent well educated man. He’s absolutely right

In France antisemitism has rocketed and stars of David have been graffitied on walls. Some suspect Russian involvement
https://www.liberation.fr/idees-et-debats/editorial/etoiles-bleues-une-volonte-de-fracturer-la-societe-20231117_SVXH7E3TGRCMDKTB6OOVIOIUSQ/

It’s true though.

Like these TikTokers would last 5 minutes under Sharia law.

You'd hope they'd have the brain cells to realise that at least, if not quite grasp the insidious antisemitism but.... 🤷🏻‍♀️ ... I don't think these people have ever read a book; they seem inordinately proud to have read A Letter.

Whether it was nudged to go viral, or whether it did go viral on its own, both options are worrying.

Yes. I think maybe I want to be surprised because the alternative is too awful.

I'm trying to figure out whether the Bin Laden thing has been manufactured by people attempting to influence public perception and then making it go viral by making it it was already a thing.

I don't understand how people could genuinely read Bin Laden's letter blaming the Jews (and Jews, not Israel, to be clear) for everything and wanting Sharia law everywhere and thinking 'gosh, that's shattered my world view, I thought he was a bad guy up till now'.

A few posts in and you're already victim blaming. typical. You're not antisemitic or anything, jus tthink Jews are to blame for the rise in antisemitism.

Any opinion on the actual topic of the thread or...?

Sadly I'm not actually surprised.

Disgusted but not surprised

@backtowinter Agreed. He is right. I’m surprised by the praising Bin Laden trend.

I tend to stick to whatever the thread is about, which is kind of what Mumsnet is about

Is it?

Jumping on every thread with whataboutism is just trying to stifle debate and doesn't add anything.

Pretty much everything short of agreeing with the OP tends to be defined as whataboutism tbf.

There seems to be an endless supply of useful idiots out there.

And no, this is not a personal insult but a social phenomenon.

He’s right. And not just anti-semitism either. Cannot believe the praise and support Bin Laden’s disgusting justification for 9/11 letter is getting on that propaganda platform. The fluffy stupidity beggars belief. Millions of empty headed young people who wouldn’t know a real challenge if it bit them on the face have been convinced there is something super special in their very identities which convinces them they’re terribly vulnerable and oppressed in the safe, open societies they actually live in. Youngsters have always thought they knew it all. Difference is the grown ups weren’t too scared to tell them to STFU. Now their nonsense has the the support of politicians and is being written into laws and policy for us to live under. Loads of young activists for The Cause being created on there. Almost as though it’s being purposely driven…

I am sure most people will have seen this but it’s always worth a share. Yuri Bezmenov. And no I am not accusing any particular country of doing this. Draw your own opinions. I know what I think though. There’s a much longer video - over an hour which explains more.

Every thread.

I tend to stick to whatever the thread is about, which is kind of what Mumsnet is about

Jumping on every thread with whataboutism is just trying to stifle debate and doesn't add anything.

Every thread.

What about

God forbid anyone should mention a humanitarian crisis on a board dedicated to discussing the conflict that’s causing it.

No-ones stopping you from discussing TicTok videos if that’s what you want.