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Conflict in the Middle East

Did your MP vote for a ceasefire?

89 replies

BoohooWoohoo · 16/11/2023 09:25

https://votes.parliament.uk/votes/commons/division/1666

Aye = ceasefire
No = no ceasefire

My MP is a Tory so toed the party line and said no 😡

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NovemberName · 17/11/2023 22:42

Can someone please explain to me why they voted? What's it suppose to change?

Not being goady. Genuinely don't understand the reasoning.

EasterIssland · 17/11/2023 22:38

I got an email from my Mp :

I voted for the Labour amendment (here), which: while condemning the Hamas attack, acknowledges that Israel’s response in Gaza is disproportionate and, importantly, criticises Israel’s activities in the West Bank; recognises the jurisdiction of the ICC in the OPTs (which the Government does not), and its role in determining whether war crimes have been committed; calls for a lifting of the blockade and says that humanitarian pauses, while welcome, must be extended, to allow for getting aid into Gaza at the scale that’s needed, followed by an “enduring cessation of fighting” and “a credible, diplomatic and political process to deliver the lasting peace of a two-state solution”. Unfortunately, this amendment was defeated, with nearly 300 MPs voting against.

i didn’t realise there was a labour one. Thought there was a SNP one

she’s a shadow member and I think she absteined on that one

https://storage.googleapis.com/electormail-uk/436db4afdee1c6ced121676b23361549/document-2023-11-15-152521-2.pdf

ChickHenLittle · 17/11/2023 20:49

BrimfulOfMash · 17/11/2023 20:37

Then we need to stand warships across the Med, not sit in the comfort of Parliament and our honest bleating ‘ceasefire’

Aren't warships defeating the point of a ceasefire?

Echobelly · 17/11/2023 20:47

No - he's a Tory in a dicey Tory seat including lots of Jewish voters (I'm a Jewish voter, albeit not one that would vote for him). He was never going to risk rocking the boat because Jewish Tory voters are more likely to be anti-ceasefire.

Oliotya · 17/11/2023 20:41

BrimfulOfMash · 17/11/2023 20:35

Of course there should be a real ceasefire, both sides, on an enduring basis.

However Neither Hamas nor Netanyahu want a ceasefire, neither will listen to outside influence, especially us!

They might listen to the U.S or Iran, their funders and arms dealers, but it seems ridiculous to me for our parliament and community to descend into yet more destructive chaos in pursuit of a unicorn.

They may not listen to us, but we do tend to see the snowball effect in international politics.

florenceandthemac · 17/11/2023 20:40

Mine did. I also know him as his child goes to a hobby with my child, so this makes me feel more comfortable 🙃

BrimfulOfMash · 17/11/2023 20:37

Ohlalalalala · 17/11/2023 20:23

Hear hear

Then we need to stand warships across the Med, not sit in the comfort of Parliament and our honest bleating ‘ceasefire’

BrimfulOfMash · 17/11/2023 20:35

Of course there should be a real ceasefire, both sides, on an enduring basis.

However Neither Hamas nor Netanyahu want a ceasefire, neither will listen to outside influence, especially us!

They might listen to the U.S or Iran, their funders and arms dealers, but it seems ridiculous to me for our parliament and community to descend into yet more destructive chaos in pursuit of a unicorn.

Ohlalalalala · 17/11/2023 20:23

ChickHenLittle · 17/11/2023 20:12

It isn't nothing to do with us, to cut a long story short.
However, if the UK were being targeted by an oppressive force killing hundreds of thousands of civilians after decades of oppression and abuse, I'd hope other countries didn't sit back and let it happen.
Evil triumphs when good men do nothing, as we have seen.

Hear hear

SumthingAndNuthing · 17/11/2023 20:18

Graham Stringer. Large Jewish community. Didn’t vote.

ChickHenLittle · 17/11/2023 20:12

It isn't nothing to do with us, to cut a long story short.
However, if the UK were being targeted by an oppressive force killing hundreds of thousands of civilians after decades of oppression and abuse, I'd hope other countries didn't sit back and let it happen.
Evil triumphs when good men do nothing, as we have seen.

gnarlynarwhal · 17/11/2023 20:08

I don’t understand this. What is the point of them having a vote? It’s nothing to do with the UK and we don’t get to have a say anyway?

ChickHenLittle · 17/11/2023 20:05

Yes. They aren't all spineless, at least. I would have been ashamed and surprised if it had been a no, they have always come across as someone decent and genuinely caring.

earthfindwire · 17/11/2023 18:56

^ yes and the Greens have published a handy list of all those who voted against 🙄

soundsys · 17/11/2023 18:55

Mine didn't vote. Labour MP in a constituency where you could pin a red rosette on a cabbage and it would win.

Noelectricheating · 17/11/2023 18:50

A labour MP that voted against the ceasefire has had her office vandalised with red paint all over it (BBC news).

Violence and hate speech is on the increase.

Sausagenbacon · 17/11/2023 09:16

To those saying it wouldn’t have made a real difference. Yes, the Israeli government are beyond depraved at the moment
What's so depressing about posts like this is the wilful amnesia

Roste · 17/11/2023 07:48

Palestinian people in the U.K. must be feeling so despondent today as the U.K. parliament has openly declared its support of Palestinian genocide. Neither of the two main parties have any decency and I hope people remember this at the next election .
To those saying it wouldn’t have made a real difference. Yes, the Israeli government are beyond depraved at the moment and civilised response is to say no, to stand up and be counted. I can’t believe this country was so pivotal in defeating a European genocide in the last century yet openly encourages the descendants of the victims to enact another. What is clear, is that Palestinian lives are irrelevant to the UK parliament.

MooFroo · 16/11/2023 23:15

fairymary87 · 16/11/2023 10:19

Shocking so many didn't call for a ceasefire. Would of been nice for the uk to fight for the innocent children being murdered each day!

Exactly! shame on them!
so scared of a PM who the people didn’t even vote in - it’s all a joke

ssd · 16/11/2023 23:13

Houseplanter · 16/11/2023 14:03

What difference does it make? I mean how will the outcome of this vote change anything?! Why does what our MPs think make the slightest difference to how terrorists behave?!

You're right, the IDF don't listen to anyone even the US.

BethDuttonsTwin · 16/11/2023 17:13

Yes - Labour. Disappointing but I will still vote for him in future as he is very present and works hard for the borough. Can’t agree on everything and I am not prone to tantrums and throwing the baby out with the bath water just because someone doesn’t agree with me.

stormy4319trevor · 16/11/2023 16:55

That's a fair few MPs going then. Many thanks.

TooOldForThisNonsense · 16/11/2023 16:52

stormy4319trevor · 16/11/2023 14:00

Is it right that Starmer said he would sack anyone voting for a ceasefire? If so, has he done that?

Yes. They were whipped to vote so if the front bench go against that they have to step down or be sacked.

Oganesson118 · 16/11/2023 16:27

My labour MP abstained and so did the labour MP of our neighbouring constituency.

lancaster · 16/11/2023 14:05

Yes. SNP

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