Documenting Israeli army racism and torture

And apparently there's been more Palestinians put in prison than released lately too.

The treatment of the Palestinians in the west bank, appalling as it was before oct 7th, had got much worse too.

BBC news just showed a Palestinian boy who was released this week. His hands are bandaged. He said he was beaten before being released but Israel had released footage of him in prison and him getting on the Red Cross bus with his hands un bandaged as proof this was a false claim. (Yesterday on Channel 4 news an Israeli minister was interviewed and he reported this as a Palestinian lie too.)

The BBC said however that his hands and wrists had simply been untreated after the beating until he was on the Red Cross bus, and that X rays confirmed they were fractured. Viewers were shown the X rays. His relatives have to help him eat.

Viewers also saw other signs of abuse on his body.

His older brother say he is now a different person from the one he was. He seems broken.

Apparently there are many reports of abusive treatment of Palestinians in prison having increased since the Hamas Oct 7 terrorist attack.

Everything seems very unclear about them at the moment.

@ScrollingLeaves I understand that. I thought I read the three dead bodies were in addition to the living hostages.

BBC1 news says there is only Hamas’s claim that they are dead, that Israel has not confirmed it.

If the Hamas deal was either the three bodies or three living hostages, the Israeli government may have weighed up that however much they and the family want the bodies, the living hostages must be the priority.
Does anyone have a clear, verified report?

How cruel and how sad for the family who have seen the other hostages be released but now have no hope.

Yes I don't understand why they refused to accept them

I've just seen this on Sky news.

Israeli forces have demonstrated - yet again - a chilling indifference to the catastrophic toll on civilians of their ongoing relentless bombardment of Gaza, said Amnesty International today.

As part of an ongoing investigation into violations of the laws of war during the conflict, Amnesty has documented two illustrative cases in which Israeli airstrikes killed 46 civilians, including 20 children. The oldest victim was an 80-year-old woman and the youngest was a three-month-old baby. These attacks must be investigated as war crimes.

https://www.amnesty.org.uk/press-releases/israelopt-detailed-investigation-two-israeli-attacks-gaza-shows-mass-killing

If I were their family I would desperately want their bodies but weren’t they refused because they would have been released instead of three living hostages?

No-one is aware of who the bodies belong to, it has not been confirmed.

I wasn't aware of who they were. I can't imagine how the father must be feeling.

Israel refused to take back bodies of hostages who died in the air raids.

The three bodies are the mum with her two children, including baby Kfir. They posted a video of the weeping father. It's psychological warfare and you are posting as if it is a humanitarian offer.

Permanent ceasefire, eh?

https://twitter.com/gaza_report/status/1730241713472414075

Now you’re using a Hamas spokesman as a source and taking it as fact.

EasterIssland · Today 14:26
Thank you got your answer re the Palestinian inter-family stabbing earlier. I had missed it while writing that I had found the answer from another poster and have just noticed.

Israel refused to take back bodies of hostages who died in the air raids.

Hamas wants a permanent ceasefire but Israel are refusing.

www.instagram.com/p/C0R1OcAMHEr/

@treeees No problem at all. Let me warn you it's extremely harrowing.

@BelleHathor Thank you. The short clip I saw was so powerful. Will be watching it later now I know what it is.

@BelleHathor Thank you. The short clip I saw was so powerful. Will be watching it later now I know what it is.

It's from the documentary Tantura, released in 2022
Synopsis
"The tape-recorded words "erase it" take on new weight in the context of history and war. After the U.N decided to partition Palestine into two separate independent Jewish and Arab states, and the state of Israel was established in 1948, local hostilities escalated to regional war and hundreds of Palestinian villages were depopulated in its aftermath. Israelis know this as the War of Independence. Palestinians call it "The Nakba" (the Catastrophe). In the late 1990s, graduate student Teddy Katz researched a large-scale massacre that had allegedly occurred in the village of Tantura in 1948. His work later came under attack and his reputation was ruined, but 140 hours of audio testimonies remain.

Director Alon Schwarz revisits former Israeli soldiers of the Alexandroni Brigade and confronts them with Teddy's recorded audiotape interviews as well as visiting former Palestinian residents of Tantura in an effort to re-examine what happened in the village and explore why "The Nakba" is taboo in Israeli society. The now elderly ex-soldiers recall unsettling acts of war while disquietly pausing at points they either don't want to remember or won't speak of. Audio from Katz's 20-year-old interviews cuts through the silence of self-preservation and exposes the ways in which power, silencing, and protected narratives can sculpt history. The film provides a rare look at Israeli society's first-generation and how the country's founding myth has shaped reality for generations. The film brings never before seen archival footage from the war of 1948 alongside intimate interviews with ex-Israeli soldiers, Palestinian residents, and historians.
Youtu.be Trailer Tantura

I am posting on very few threads now. I'm tired of the double standards.
I've seen so much mention of how certain threads are apparently targeted by pro-Palestinian posters, while the same echo chamber delight in calling anyone who criticises the Israeli government or IDF "dumb". Some of the comments recently have been vile, with rushes to justify them. I really can't even post in reply because it's such an awful mindset.
We need to have threads that everyone can post on without the personal insults, so this is good advice.