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Documenting Israeli army racism and torture

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Desertrose2023 · 15/11/2023 04:25

this thread is to document the racist, criminal and dehumanizing behaviour by the most “moral army in the world” both during its most recent bombardment of Gaza and across decades of military occupation in the West Bank.

to start, here is a video of Israeli soldiers chanting they will turn Gazans into Kebabs.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Czjm8bYu-_X/?igshid=MXB0Yzl2NDFpcWx5aQ==

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https://www.instagram.com/reel/Czjm8bYu-_X/?igshid=MXB0Yzl2NDFpcWx5aQ==

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FOJN · 15/11/2023 11:34

I saw the footage of the Jewish man in the West Bank being attacked by an IDF soldier. It started with a soldier kicking another Jewish mans feet out from under him. I was struck by how frightened the other men in the group looked and despite being horrified and upset by the violence most did not try to protect or defend the man on the ground. It seemed to me that they knew nothing good would come of trying because they'd seen it all before.

stormy4319trevor · 15/11/2023 11:34

Creatingusernamesismygame · 15/11/2023 11:31

I saw the video of the idf beating the Jewish man speaking up against the atrocities. It was absolutely heart breaking. I honestly couldn’t stop thinking about it for days. The idf are just terrorists.

The scary thing is the IDF are just ordinary kids like yours and mine. God knows what's been done to their mental health if they can be so violent.

forthesakeofsanity · 15/11/2023 11:33

Lots of Jewish Israeli civilians protesting against the Israeli government and they were getting beaten by the idf too. Awful scenes and they call themselves a democracy. What a joke.

Creatingusernamesismygame · 15/11/2023 11:31

feralunderclass · 15/11/2023 10:47

Of course it's not all Israelis, many are protesting and calling the government out (mind you they are facing severe consequences).

I saw the video of the idf beating the Jewish man speaking up against the atrocities. It was absolutely heart breaking. I honestly couldn’t stop thinking about it for days. The idf are just terrorists.

ChickHenLittle · 15/11/2023 11:27

JSMill · 15/11/2023 11:13

Yes I've seen a video of that happen. The soldier was so aggressive. The orthodox Jewish man looked so frightened.
I read somewhere that Netanyahu wants to pass legislation to allow soldiers to fire live ammunition at protesters. How awful.

I think this may be the video I saw, a man wearing his tallit and other religious items (I'm not sure of all the correct names unfortunately), being very roughly shoved and pushed around by IDF soldiers, then they eventually push him into a building and close the door? From what I saw, the man was not threatening at all and looked quite scared and confused while he was being attacked by the soldier.

ChickHenLittle · 15/11/2023 11:19

Thanks @FOJN, that translation makes a lot more sense. 🙂

Lovepeaceunderstanding · 15/11/2023 11:16

orangegato · 15/11/2023 07:07

Any of Hamas killing babies? No?

@orangegato , no they’re not interested in Jewish babies.

PurpleCrocs3 · 15/11/2023 11:14

Thank you for making this thread. I can't believe how much evidence there is of the IDF abusing the Palestinians and yet people still defend them.

For those predictably saying "what about Hamas???-

Why don't you go and start a thread with videos of Hamas abusing innocent civilians and children? Or maybe you can't as no such videos exist?

If Hamas are terrorists then so are the IDF.

JSMill · 15/11/2023 11:13

Parkingt111 · 15/11/2023 10:52

@feralunderclass yes it's anyone who doesn't toe the expected line
You may have seen a video of a group of orthodox jews being beaten by the IDF quite aggressively for showing support for Palestine
It was disgusting to see

Yes I've seen a video of that happen. The soldier was so aggressive. The orthodox Jewish man looked so frightened.
I read somewhere that Netanyahu wants to pass legislation to allow soldiers to fire live ammunition at protesters. How awful.

Thereissomelight · 15/11/2023 11:00

@ScrollingLeaves
I was going to say, I’m sure this prayer or something very similar is being prayed by many Gazan families now, night after night.

ScrollingLeaves · 15/11/2023 10:59

@FOJN · Today 10:41

“ChickHenLittle · Today 10:18
Come on @Brumbies, have you got a translation of what you posted or was it just to try to look superior?”

It's Psalm 91 and the translation provided here leaves out key words which makes it difficult to comprehend.

There is a table on this wiki page which gives a line by line translation from Hebrew to English.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psalm_91#:~:text=He%20shall%20cover%20thee%20with,destruction%20that%20wasteth%20at%20noonday

Thank you very much FOJN. It is very nice to have that clarity.

For Christians, Jews, and Muslims there is only one God so this invocation for protection should be for Palestinians and Jews alike.

Psalm 91 - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psalm_91#:~:text=He%20shall%20cover%20thee%20with,destruction%20that%20wasteth%20at%20noonday.

Parkingt111 · 15/11/2023 10:52

@feralunderclass yes it's anyone who doesn't toe the expected line
You may have seen a video of a group of orthodox jews being beaten by the IDF quite aggressively for showing support for Palestine
It was disgusting to see

feralunderclass · 15/11/2023 10:47

Parkingt111 · 15/11/2023 10:44

It's definitely not all Israeli citizens but the ones who already had such views on the Palestinians have become emboldened to openly declare it now, spurred on by factions of their own government
Open calls of genocide are met with cheers and laughter

Of course it's not all Israelis, many are protesting and calling the government out (mind you they are facing severe consequences).

Parkingt111 · 15/11/2023 10:44

It's definitely not all Israeli citizens but the ones who already had such views on the Palestinians have become emboldened to openly declare it now, spurred on by factions of their own government
Open calls of genocide are met with cheers and laughter

Thereissomelight · 15/11/2023 10:42

forthesakeofsanity · 15/11/2023 10:41

Or like this:

Good grief.

Parkingt111 · 15/11/2023 10:41

@feralunderclass I saw that too! At a wedding of all places. What a way to start a new chapter of your life, by promoting genocide

FOJN · 15/11/2023 10:41

ChickHenLittle · 15/11/2023 10:18

Come on @Brumbies, have you got a translation of what you posted or was it just to try to look superior?

It's Psalm 91 and the translation provided here leaves out key words which makes it difficult to comprehend.

There is a table on this wiki page which gives a line by line translation from Hebrew to English.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psalm_91#:~:text=He%20shall%20cover%20thee%20with,destruction%20that%20wasteth%20at%20noonday.

forthesakeofsanity · 15/11/2023 10:40

feralunderclass · 15/11/2023 10:37

Thanks for the thread OP. I follow quite a few Jewish influencers and these sickening posts are coming up in my for you page. I saw an Israeli wedding singer this morning singing about "death to Gaza and all Palestinians, all the land will be ours soon" and everyone clapping and cheering 😭

You mean like this
https://youtube.com/shorts/RZV_eQybHCA?si=5vG-gFWl8mg5w3Z7

Before you continue to YouTube

https://youtube.com/shorts/RZV_eQybHCA?si=5vG-gFWl8mg5w3Z7

OuiOuiKitty · 15/11/2023 10:40

I note with interest that you are completely minimising it, as well as justifying it as part of a "war" when there was in fact a ceasefire in place.

What is with this view that there was a ceasefire in place because only Palestinians were being killed before 7/10? If killing Palestinians doesn't break a ceasefire then the same should be said for killing Israelis. Or do Palestinian lives not count to those 'there was a ceasefire in place' people?

feralunderclass · 15/11/2023 10:37

Thanks for the thread OP. I follow quite a few Jewish influencers and these sickening posts are coming up in my for you page. I saw an Israeli wedding singer this morning singing about "death to Gaza and all Palestinians, all the land will be ours soon" and everyone clapping and cheering 😭

Creatingusernamesismygame · 15/11/2023 10:36

SomeCatFromJapan · 15/11/2023 10:24

*Have you seen videos of Hamas members beheading babies? Hitting or abusing women? Hitting disabled people. Shooting little boys for throwing stones? Or are these just fairytales you’ve been reading, written by IDF and Israeli government supporters?
Can you send me some links please.

I’m not saying Hamas don’t kill innocent civilians, that’s inevitable during war, but what I’m asking is how does shooting children who throw a handful of stones or a disabled man in a wheelchair, help the idf against Hamas? That’s terrorism. Terrorising the civilians when they should be focusing on Hamas if they claim they are the enemy.*

Actually yes, to at least some of that. I saw some hideous footage of the 7 October massacre.
I note with interest that you are completely minimising it, as well as justifying it as part of a "war" when there was in fact a ceasefire in place.

I don't agree with all IDF actions either.

If you really wish, you can google plenty of footage of the 7 October attack, I'm not personally inclined to go and dig up torture porn for you just now though.

Edited

Yes, I’ve seen the awful atrocities of the 7th of October. I’ve seen the videos of Hamas gunning the civilians at the festival and I’ve seen the videos of the Israeli forces also shooting their civilians.

But, I’m asking you to show similar videos of attacks other than the festival attacks. Show me where Hamas have displayed the same thug like, bullying of ordinary citizens, children, women of Israel at the hands of Hamas? Israeli civilians who are not confronting them with violence or are armed?

ScrollingLeaves · 15/11/2023 10:36

SomeCatFromJapan · Today 08:46

I certainly won't defend everything the IDF do in the West Bank but the "weird obsession" with the clothes removal is because of suicide bombers wearing explosive vests.

I am not sure what you mean, as obviously explosive vests are too bulky to be under garments aren’t they?
Wouldn’t it be a case of taking off a jacket at most, not the complete undressing demanded ?

Brumbies · 15/11/2023 10:33

I find this thread distasteful and full of ignorant people.

feralunderclass · 15/11/2023 10:31

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Mocking the deaths of any people is frankly disgusting. Whoever made this poster should be ashamed. And the Gazans (or Hamas or Muslims) were not responsible for the Holocaust, so not sure why the 'competitive' genocide angle? I suppose Israel gave to resort to filth like this, they have no other defence now.