Active discussions

Please or to access all these features

Talk
Conflict in the Middle East
Original poster

Documenting Israeli army racism and torture

995 replies

Desertrose2023 · 15/11/2023 04:25

this thread is to document the racist, criminal and dehumanizing behaviour by the most “moral army in the world” both during its most recent bombardment of Gaza and across decades of military occupation in the West Bank.

to start, here is a video of Israeli soldiers chanting they will turn Gazans into Kebabs.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Czjm8bYu-_X/?igshid=MXB0Yzl2NDFpcWx5aQ==

Instagram

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Czjm8bYu-_X/?igshid=MXB0Yzl2NDFpcWx5aQ==

OP posts:
Thread gallery
93
Itsaharddlife · 27/11/2023 16:17

whatswrongwiththeworldddd · 27/11/2023 16:11

This interview speaks of the treatment of the Israeli hostages.

www.instagram.com/reel/C0I6e5dsI9p/?igshid=N2ViNmM2MDRjNw==

He says hamas gave then medicine, not always successful but tried.

Yet Israel deprives all the people of gaza food fuel and medicine.

It must have been terrifying for the hostages walking down those tunnels not knowing what awaits and whether they'd be killed.

whatswrongwiththeworldddd · 27/11/2023 16:14

whatswrongwiththeworldddd · 27/11/2023 16:13

The difference is Hamas are a proscribed terrorist group and supporting them is illegal.

Yet Israeli is given free rein by us and the US to terrorise the Palestinians, deprive them of basic needs to live - even denying them rain water.

I agree with @ChickHenLittle

whatswrongwiththeworldddd · 27/11/2023 16:13

The difference is Hamas are a proscribed terrorist group and supporting them is illegal.

Yet Israeli is given free rein by us and the US to terrorise the Palestinians, deprive them of basic needs to live - even denying them rain water.

whatswrongwiththeworldddd · 27/11/2023 16:11

This interview speaks of the treatment of the Israeli hostages.

www.instagram.com/reel/C0I6e5dsI9p/?igshid=N2ViNmM2MDRjNw==

Itsaharddlife · 27/11/2023 16:01

ChickHenLittle · 27/11/2023 15:59

Yet the leaders of the UK and US are supporting a government which is terrorising Gaza.
Neither deserve support (Hamas and Israeli government that is, all civilians absolutely do).

Show quote history

Yes to this

ChickHenLittle · 27/11/2023 15:59

basculin · 27/11/2023 15:53

The difference is Hamas are a proscribed terrorist group and supporting them is illegal.

Show quote history

Yet the leaders of the UK and US are supporting a government which is terrorising Gaza.
Neither deserve support (Hamas and Israeli government that is, all civilians absolutely do).

Thereissomelight · 27/11/2023 15:56

treeees · 27/11/2023 15:56

@Itsaharddlife there is a list of Palestinians killed (many thousands), however, due to press not being allowed in Gaza, we don't see individual news stories on them in the mainstream press, don't see their photos with their names plastered on front pages. We may see references to the odd one on social media, or as a small portion of a report, but the vast majority are still just a name on a list, we don't have a video interview or full report on them. So to see a name on a page in a list of thousands is comparatively anonymous.

They all deserve a front page story. Israeli and Palestinians alike.

Edited

Yes, they do.

treeees · 27/11/2023 15:56

@Itsaharddlife there is a list of Palestinians killed (many thousands), however, due to press not being allowed in Gaza, we don't see individual news stories on them in the mainstream press, don't see their photos with their names plastered on front pages. We may see references to the odd one on social media, or as a small portion of a report, but the vast majority are still just a name on a list, we don't have a video interview or full report on them. So to see a name on a page in a list of thousands is comparatively anonymous.

They all deserve a front page story. Israeli and Palestinians alike.

ChickHenLittle · 27/11/2023 15:56

Fairtobefairohhhhhc · 27/11/2023 11:11

https://www.instagram.com/p/C0JZ3BQKHbc/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

You see, it's started

Just awful. I agree that I don't see things improving for Palestinians after this ceasefire.

Take all the time you need, I have been taking breaks too. The constant accusations and derailing are genuinely tiring, it's not worth anyone's mental health to wade through every day. Adding to what is already a deeply distressing situation regardless.

Itsaharddlife · 27/11/2023 15:55

basculin · 27/11/2023 15:53

The difference is Hamas are a proscribed terrorist group and supporting them is illegal.

Show quote history

Exactly.
Yet Israel can commit atrocities for decades without anyone so much as raising an eye brow.

basculin · 27/11/2023 15:53

Itsaharddlife · 27/11/2023 15:50

Where did I call them humanitarians??
Just commenting on the difference between hamas and Israel. Or perhaps theres little difference between the two groups.

Show quote history

The difference is Hamas are a proscribed terrorist group and supporting them is illegal.

Itsaharddlife · 27/11/2023 15:53

Thereissomelight · 27/11/2023 14:54

Yes of course, and we don’t get to hear their names.

Show quote history

There is actually a list of names of those killed in Gaza.
Though I don't think Israel has managed to complete complete list of all those killed in the October 7th attack? But then again they're not sure how many there were

basculin · 27/11/2023 15:51

noblegiraffe · 27/11/2023 14:05

It's no wonder so many people are questioning the portrayal of hamas (rightly or wrongly) when first and accounts are likely this one

You have got to be fucking kidding me. Some of those hostage children are now being told that their parents and family were murdered that day. One hostage was left with a bullet in their leg for 50 days. Another hostage is now seriously ill in hospital after being denied medication. Some of the hostages are dead.

Right fucking humanitarians those shits are.

There's some idiot woman (who may or may not be the sock puppet of a different guy) going viral right now for pretending to be a "body language expert" saying that Mia Regev is actually secretly grateful to her captors and that she would actually be better off staying with Hamas than her father in Israel.

The length people will go to to defend terrorist scum is fucked up.

Itsaharddlife · 27/11/2023 15:50

noblegiraffe · 27/11/2023 14:05

It's no wonder so many people are questioning the portrayal of hamas (rightly or wrongly) when first and accounts are likely this one

You have got to be fucking kidding me. Some of those hostage children are now being told that their parents and family were murdered that day. One hostage was left with a bullet in their leg for 50 days. Another hostage is now seriously ill in hospital after being denied medication. Some of the hostages are dead.

Right fucking humanitarians those shits are.

Where did I call them humanitarians??
Just commenting on the difference between hamas and Israel. Or perhaps theres little difference between the two groups.

Thereissomelight · 27/11/2023 14:54

treeees · 27/11/2023 14:41

So sad for any hostage and their family.

In light of this please also remember Palestinian children who are now orphaned, or disabled, having lost arms or legs due to bombing. These figures must be in the thousands already.

Yes of course, and we don’t get to hear their names.

treeees · 27/11/2023 14:41

So sad for any hostage and their family.

In light of this please also remember Palestinian children who are now orphaned, or disabled, having lost arms or legs due to bombing. These figures must be in the thousands already.

Thereissomelight · 27/11/2023 14:36

noblegiraffe · 27/11/2023 14:05

It's no wonder so many people are questioning the portrayal of hamas (rightly or wrongly) when first and accounts are likely this one

You have got to be fucking kidding me. Some of those hostage children are now being told that their parents and family were murdered that day. One hostage was left with a bullet in their leg for 50 days. Another hostage is now seriously ill in hospital after being denied medication. Some of the hostages are dead.

Right fucking humanitarians those shits are.

I agree that it’s very upsetting to hear about the children who were released only to be told their parents were dead and missing.

whatswrongwiththeworldddd · 27/11/2023 14:20

noblegiraffe · 27/11/2023 14:05

It's no wonder so many people are questioning the portrayal of hamas (rightly or wrongly) when first and accounts are likely this one

You have got to be fucking kidding me. Some of those hostage children are now being told that their parents and family were murdered that day. One hostage was left with a bullet in their leg for 50 days. Another hostage is now seriously ill in hospital after being denied medication. Some of the hostages are dead.

Right fucking humanitarians those shits are.

Can you link your source to this please

whatswrongwiththeworldddd · 27/11/2023 14:19

@Itsaharddlife exactly and when all you're doing is pointing out the difference between the two, you get accused of being pro Hamas

noblegiraffe · 27/11/2023 14:05

It's no wonder so many people are questioning the portrayal of hamas (rightly or wrongly) when first and accounts are likely this one

You have got to be fucking kidding me. Some of those hostage children are now being told that their parents and family were murdered that day. One hostage was left with a bullet in their leg for 50 days. Another hostage is now seriously ill in hospital after being denied medication. Some of the hostages are dead.

Right fucking humanitarians those shits are.

Thereissomelight · 27/11/2023 14:01

Fairtobefairohhhhhc · 27/11/2023 11:09

Thank you everyone. And the same for everyone on both sides .

Dh has stopped me talking about it at home. Not that I thought it was other than commenting on the news. I think he can see I'm getting quite upset over it. And it's kot great for home. So I'm still here. I'm still thinking about everyone constantly. But my voice will be smaller for a while. X

I found it very upsetting too. Step away if you need to but putting your voice out steadily from time to time makes a difference…to them and to you. There are moderate voices on both sides.

Itsaharddlife · 27/11/2023 13:57

whatswrongwiththeworldddd · 27/11/2023 13:42

Treatment of Israeli hostages

www.instagram.com/reel/C0I3cRSuzrM/?igshid=N2ViNmM2MDRjNw==

Stark difference between how they treated the hostages and how Israel/IDF treats the children in their custody.

It's no wonder so many people are questioning the portrayal of hamas (rightly or wrongly) when first and accounts are likely this one. Yet when an actual victim of the IDFs brutality speaks up, they are told they are terrorists or liars a d their word can't be trusted.

whatswrongwiththeworldddd · 27/11/2023 13:42

Treatment of Israeli hostages

www.instagram.com/reel/C0I3cRSuzrM/?igshid=N2ViNmM2MDRjNw==

Fairtobefairohhhhhc · 27/11/2023 11:09

Thank you everyone. And the same for everyone on both sides .

Dh has stopped me talking about it at home. Not that I thought it was other than commenting on the news. I think he can see I'm getting quite upset over it. And it's kot great for home. So I'm still here. I'm still thinking about everyone constantly. But my voice will be smaller for a while. X