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Shocked by the racist signs at marches

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Pigeotto · 14/11/2023 07:14

Maybe I’m just severely naive but I’m honestly just shocked at the levels of racism of some of the signs at these marches. It’s just caught me really, really off guard.

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Humdingerydoo · 25/11/2023 18:53

Trulywonderful · 25/11/2023 18:48

I have a list of six username on my account. It is because I have been in here for years. I talk a lot and sometimes have a conversation that could identify. So have to name change know and again. It makes me feel better protected professionally. We are not supposed to have open social media accounts or be open about political views etc. I don't change name for different threads though. Would never keep track of who I was supposed to be😂

Yeah, I had similar concerns about being identified.

I didn't mean to change name for different threads, but this is the kind of situation you find yourself in when your kids refuse to sleep for the first few years of their lives. I barely know my name in real life half the time let alone on MN.

The other thread is full! My dual identity has come to an end!

Trulywonderful · 25/11/2023 18:48

Humdingerydoo · 25/11/2023 18:37

To be fair, I've ended up with multiple usernames purely because I'm a bit of an idiot and wanted to have one username for this and another for AIBU. I kept forgetting to change my name though so then had to make a third username which is this one, but I'm still active on one (I think!) thread on here with a previous username (OhHelloTheres). I've kept to that name on there to try and avoid confusion, but I'm really looking forward to that thread reaching it's post limit so I can stop trying to remember who I am meant to be posting as 😂

I have a list of six username on my account. It is because I have been in here for years. I talk a lot and sometimes have a conversation that could identify. So have to name change know and again. It makes me feel better protected professionally. We are not supposed to have open social media accounts or be open about political views etc. I don't change name for different threads though. Would never keep track of who I was supposed to be😂

Humdingerydoo · 25/11/2023 18:41

Jupitersstorm · 25/11/2023 18:38

I get that but this is why people are getting away with it because our police are sensible and liberal and don't want to incite a really potentially dangerous mob.

I know. I'm not saying I agree with their reluctance during previous marches, I'm just saying they weren't wrong in their assessment of the crowd having potential of turning very hostile. Everyone knew this would happen

Trulywonderful · 25/11/2023 18:41

Humdingerydoo · 25/11/2023 18:33

The man being arrested was the one wearing what looks like a green Hamas headband. This "hostile crowd" is one of the main reasons for the relatively low amount of arrests during previous marches. Looks like the police were right to be cautious.

Eeekk

Got a nephew who is a police officer. I hate it when they think the police are there to take abuse like this

GreekDogRescue · 25/11/2023 18:41

AGovernmentOfLawsAndNotMen · 25/11/2023 13:18

So far the march today seems peaceful.
No sign ( that I have seen ) of the far right counter protestors who showed up on 11th November thank goodness.

There is a further stop the war march next Wednesday

So you think protestors chanting ‘from the river to the sea’ isn’t offensive and racist?

Instead you blame a small number of white working class men, many of whom were veterans, who turned up to show their respects for Remembrance Day, who were kettled and searched by the police without committing any crimes.

meanwhile every Saturday the streets are full of racist thugs calling for the annihilation of Jews and Israel, but you don’t have a problem with this.
Your anti Semitism is horrifying.

Jupitersstorm · 25/11/2023 18:38

Humdingerydoo · 25/11/2023 18:33

The man being arrested was the one wearing what looks like a green Hamas headband. This "hostile crowd" is one of the main reasons for the relatively low amount of arrests during previous marches. Looks like the police were right to be cautious.

I get that but this is why people are getting away with it because our police are sensible and liberal and don't want to incite a really potentially dangerous mob.

Trulywonderful · 25/11/2023 18:38

Stomacharmeleon · 25/11/2023 18:12

I think it's frowned upon to be more than one person on a thread.... sock puppetry at its finest. Also I would doubt the validity of your argument if you are the only person agreeing with yourself!

Most of us would think this way. However people that have been radicalised or that are highly emotional about a subject/narrative don't think this way. To them the cause is everything. So anything they believe furthers the cause is the right thing to do. Even if it seems like madness and proves there argument/cause it flawed to everyone else

Humdingerydoo · 25/11/2023 18:37

To be fair, I've ended up with multiple usernames purely because I'm a bit of an idiot and wanted to have one username for this and another for AIBU. I kept forgetting to change my name though so then had to make a third username which is this one, but I'm still active on one (I think!) thread on here with a previous username (OhHelloTheres). I've kept to that name on there to try and avoid confusion, but I'm really looking forward to that thread reaching it's post limit so I can stop trying to remember who I am meant to be posting as 😂

Jupitersstorm · 25/11/2023 18:37

Trulywonderful · 25/11/2023 18:33

Oh sorry

Well yes I would assume that too. It doesn't take much to get a second or third email address does it. Also that way mumsnet cannot check if you are the same user etc

I think it is possible some people could do all these things. Have a couple of usernames per account and a couple of accounts.

We sound like conspiracy theorists now 😂However evidence does support this theory and it has been done in the past (Covid).

No need to apologise.

I think this is what happened with the earlier post as the original poster replied to a thread with a different user name which would suggest a user with multiple email addresses and user names and made a mistake! Otherwise why bother to reply to your own post with a changed user name?

Humdingerydoo · 25/11/2023 18:33

The man being arrested was the one wearing what looks like a green Hamas headband. This "hostile crowd" is one of the main reasons for the relatively low amount of arrests during previous marches. Looks like the police were right to be cautious.

Shocked by the racist signs at marches
Trulywonderful · 25/11/2023 18:33

Jupitersstorm · 25/11/2023 18:23

I know all this. I was suggesting that some people might be creating numerous sign ups with multiple email addresses and then use these user names to agree with each other or tag team - rather than change their user names with their primary and single log in. You just need to have two browser windows or tabs open.

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Oh sorry

Well yes I would assume that too. It doesn't take much to get a second or third email address does it. Also that way mumsnet cannot check if you are the same user etc

I think it is possible some people could do all these things. Have a couple of usernames per account and a couple of accounts.

We sound like conspiracy theorists now 😂However evidence does support this theory and it has been done in the past (Covid).

GreekDogRescue · 25/11/2023 18:32

HalebiHabibti · 14/11/2023 07:40

As a white middle class person whose father is Syrian and who grew up in the Middle East, I'm not sure the above statement applies to me.

Life in a free Palestine would at the very least (one presumes) have more water and direct roads available.

Nobody is stopping Palestinians having their own water supply. Why not set up desalination plants like Israel has done.

Jupitersstorm · 25/11/2023 18:23

Trulywonderful · 25/11/2023 17:58

I can go back and use a previous name anytime I choose and then come back to this one. I don't choose to do that but I could. So yes people can just switch uo names several times a day in theory

I am surprised you didn't know this. We have several users on different threads literally thanking themselves or agreeing with their own post in a different name often. Start looking for patterns in how users post and speak/write. It is easier for some of us that are need to spot when kids have copied homework

I know all this. I was suggesting that some people might be creating numerous sign ups with multiple email addresses and then use these user names to agree with each other or tag team - rather than change their user names with their primary and single log in. You just need to have two browser windows or tabs open.

Stomacharmeleon · 25/11/2023 18:12

I think it's frowned upon to be more than one person on a thread.... sock puppetry at its finest. Also I would doubt the validity of your argument if you are the only person agreeing with yourself!

Trulywonderful · 25/11/2023 17:58

Jupitersstorm · 25/11/2023 17:45

Really - so one user can have multiple sign ups and usernames? And sign up with multiple email addresses and be lots of different posters in one thread but the same person?

I thought name changes were allowed but not multiple usernames?

I can go back and use a previous name anytime I choose and then come back to this one. I don't choose to do that but I could. So yes people can just switch uo names several times a day in theory

I am surprised you didn't know this. We have several users on different threads literally thanking themselves or agreeing with their own post in a different name often. Start looking for patterns in how users post and speak/write. It is easier for some of us that are need to spot when kids have copied homework

noblegiraffe · 25/11/2023 17:55

Really - so one user can have multiple sign ups and usernames? And sign up with multiple email addresses and be lots of different posters in one thread but the same person?

you don’t need multiple email addresses, you can do it from one account. Above the posting box it says ‘your username’ and you can use whichever of your names you want.

I don’t do this btw, I can’t be arsed with name changing, but it’s allowed. Some people have different usernames for different boards for example.

Trulywonderful · 25/11/2023 17:52

Jupitersstorm · 25/11/2023 17:39

Man, I apologised to you because you thought I was being goady - yet you apologise to trulywonderful for changing your user name in replying to me!

You just outed yourself as a poster with two plus usernames. I hope MN bans you for this.

They are also AGovernmentOfLawsAndNotMen

and folkhandlesnotfourcandles (which is something funny my husband refers to occasionally, hence why I made a comment and they said they were also Truly and we had spoken before

So at least 3 usernames I know about. Goodness knows how many more they have we don't know about

People are allowed to have more than one username though

Jupitersstorm · 25/11/2023 17:45

noblegiraffe · 25/11/2023 17:39

You're allowed multiple usernames on MN. You're supposed to stick to one on a thread.

Really - so one user can have multiple sign ups and usernames? And sign up with multiple email addresses and be lots of different posters in one thread but the same person?

I thought name changes were allowed but not multiple usernames?

noblegiraffe · 25/11/2023 17:39

You're allowed multiple usernames on MN. You're supposed to stick to one on a thread.

Jupitersstorm · 25/11/2023 17:39

Trulywonderfulworld · 25/11/2023 14:37

Apologies @Trulywonderful I keep forgetting to change my username to a n other on the thread as I previously said I would given the similarities in our names.

Sometimes I remember to change it, sometimes I forget.
Hope it’s not causing confusion for you and others here.
Must do better!

Man, I apologised to you because you thought I was being goady - yet you apologise to trulywonderful for changing your user name in replying to me!

You just outed yourself as a poster with two plus usernames. I hope MN bans you for this.

Trulywonderful · 25/11/2023 17:25

All going swimmingly again today I see. It doesn't take much to just stick to the pre designed signs to hide any bad faith actors and promote the same narrative. It really doesn't. However some cannot help themselves again. Hopefully they are least can refrain from throwing fireworks at people again tonight.

Jupitersstorm · 25/11/2023 17:18

From the Mail:
young woman was reportedly holding a hand-drawn placard which read 'stop doing what Hitler did to you' - making a comparison between Israel's strikes on Gaza and the Holocaust perpetuated by the Nazis.
The police also arrested a man on suspicion of inciting racial hatred by carrying a placard with Nazi symbols on it.
Another man has been arrested on suspicion of supporting a proscribed organisation after he was filmed wearing a green headband with Arabic writing, imitating the ones that Hamas wear.
Police posted on X to say that when he was stopped by officers, 'multiple headbands' were found on him and he was arrested.
The Met also confirmed they arrested two women for a racially aggravated public order offence after they were spotted on CCTV holding 'offensive placards'.
A further four people were allegedly distributing literature featuring a swastika inside a Star of David at a stall in Whitehall - with the police saying they were arrested on suspicion of inciting racial hatred.
One placard at the protest displayed a picture of Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer under the word 'Genocide', while another had a picture of leaders of the G7 above the phrase 'War criminals on the run'.
A sign was held which accused the UK government of backing genocide which included photos of Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu, ex-Home Secretary Suella Braverman, PM Rishi Sunak and Labour leader Keir Starmer photoshopped to make it look as if they have blood on their hands.
A giant Palestinian flag was also unfurled and carried alongside The Cenotaph war memorial in Whitehall, which itself was decorated with poppies two weeks on from Armistice Day."

Stop these bloody marches now - horrible people converging on London every Saturday leading up to Xmas - give people a break now, you idiots.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12790169/Cops-line-streets-Palestine-rally-hits-London-amid-four-day-ceasefire-Gaza-police-make-arrest-warning-Arabic-speaking-officers-watching-hate-speech-crowd.html"

Palestine rally hits London with officers watching for hate speech

Thousands of pro-Palestine protesters flooded the streets of Central London shouting the controversial 'from the river to the sea' chant' with children as young as five joining in.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12790169/Cops-line-streets-Palestine-rally-hits-London-amid-four-day-ceasefire-Gaza-police-make-arrest-warning-Arabic-speaking-officers-watching-hate-speech-crowd.html%22

Trulywonderful · 25/11/2023 16:54

Jupitersstorm · 25/11/2023 14:33

Hello Trulywonderfulworld.

I was replying to AGovernmentOfLawsAndNotMen, not you -the post I was replying to was created by AGovernmentOfLawsAndNotMen and not you Trulywonderfulworld.

I wasn't trying to be goady. Sorry if you felt this I was.

They are both the same poster

They have at least one other name they use on a different thread too.

I was talking to them on that thread and they told me they were Trulywonderfulworld too. We were having a laugh about my husband having the same taste in something as them and it being a small world etc

Trulywonderful · 25/11/2023 16:51

Stomacharmeleon · 25/11/2023 14:33

I someone name changing repeatedly as I am confused...

Yep they just made a mistake and forgot to name change to the name that was tagged

😂

Trulywonderful · 25/11/2023 16:49

Trulywonderfulworld · 25/11/2023 14:28

Agree.
A disgrace.!

However this news article was after my post.
So irrelevant to my post
You could state a fact and post the updated news without tagging mine.
Why are so many people so goady.

I will be ignoring goady posts as they simply waste space
This isn’t a competition MNs

So you are both Trulywonderfulworld and
AGovernmentOfLawsAndNotMen then

Good of you letting us all know

😁

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