Shocked by the racist signs at marches

Apparently mumsnet don't like my referencing another poster. So I will add this link again without doing that.

https://twitter.com/YBcabbie/status/1725099736875581500

He/she does indeed has the "right"to post . I am not denying that right. What I am doing is is suggesting that it is poor forum etiquette to go off topic as it leads to derailment of the thread.

This thread is about racism at the march and posters are having a debate about that. There is an extraordinary and unprecedented number of threads about Israel and its treatment of Gaza and Palestinians and the post I was referencing would fit into much better into those.

It's been said many times before.

@HeidiInTheBigCity I think an amount of people are piggy backing their previous prejudices on the back of this conflict. Also political opinions. I have just seen on guardian that Jewish and allied protestors say they were pepper sprayed and physically attacked by the police in US, and a police man spat on the candles they had lit for Palestinians killed. I suppose that police man would say he was pro Israel, yet he is capable of censoring Jewish views in an aggressive way. I wonder if his aggression is more about hating Muslims than caring for the Jewish people.

Why are my replies being deleted cos I'm mentioning Muslims

She/He has as much right to post as you have. You have no right to dictate where she/he posts either.

Reasonably intelligent people can hold a wide range of non-contradictory beliefes all at once: that antisemitism is wrong, that the attacks upon civilians on 7 October were wrong, that the daily horror that the Israel inflicts on Palestinians - even during "normal", "relatively quiet" times - is wrong, that Israel´s actions in Gaza are wrong, that the frankly genocidal rhetoric coming out of the far-right Israeli government is not only wrong but also, frankly, terrifying, ... etc.

Quite frankly, as someone who has been taking an interest in this conflict for over 20 years at this point and has read widely about it, I cannot help but notice how very uninformed a lot of people are - and how readily they nonetheless immediately take sides and spout some frankly worrying opinions, from comparing Gaza with Auschwitz and conflating Israel with "Jews" in general, to hailing Israel to some sort of a light upon the world, utterly ignoring its decades of blatant human rights violations against not only (albeit mostly) Palestinians but also other minorities! It is frankly worrying

Yes, I would agree with all of this.

"Pandering to the Mob!"

Too right. I think that the marchers are now causing sentiment to change against their weekly protests.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12757003/MP-anger-Met-Palestine-protesters-climb-war-memorial-london.html

Sorry but you have lots of threads to write your opinions about - this thread is for racist (anti- semitic )signs at the marches. You are doing what other people are trying to do - derail this thread by drawing attention away from the problems that the marches are causing.

It's kind of astounding that a terrorist group is putting its citizens in the way of a defence force trying to find hostages that the terrorist group refuse to release.

@Ecdysiast care to elaborate what 'their own people' means?

As a long-time supporter of the Palestinian people, I have absolutely no problem at all condemning blatantly antisemitic and horrifying behaviour some examples of which have been shared on this thread. It is categorically wrong! I am happy to stand up for and defend anyone who finds themselves at the receiving end of this. Because not only is it wrong - it´s also disgusting!

What is also categorically wrong, however, is the attempt to smear everyone and anyone who opposes the actions of the Israeli state as a mere, hateful antisemite.

Reasonably intelligent people can hold a wide range of non-contradictory beliefes all at once: that antisemitism is wrong, that the attacks upon civilians on 7 October were wrong, that the daily horror that the Israel inflicts on Palestinians - even during "normal", "relatively quiet" times - is wrong, that Israel´s actions in Gaza are wrong, that the frankly genocidal rhetoric coming out of the far-right Israeli government is not only wrong but also, frankly, terrifying, ... etc.

Quite frankly, as someone who has been taking an interest in this conflict for over 20 years at this point and has read widely about it, I cannot help but notice how very uninformed a lot of people are - and how readily they nonetheless immediately take sides and spout some frankly worrying opinions, from comparing Gaza with Auschwitz and conflating Israel with "Jews" in general, to hailing Israel to some sort of a light upon the world, utterly ignoring its decades of blatant human rights violations against not only (albeit mostly) Palestinians but also other minorities! It is frankly worrying!

This

Times Radio right now is so sad. Mother of one of the hostages, speaking about her daughter Mia

Heartbreaking horror

'Islamophobia' 😂

The blatant islamophobia is being reported and deleted so you might as well stop posting it.

that is not true either.

that was awful, couldn't finish all of it. Theres so much hate, but also blatant misinformation.

It's awful isn't it. No idea if she was caught or not, my husband sent this to me. It makes me scared for my kids travelling in London, and we're not jewish. I used to get so nervous when people kicked off about something on public transport, but I never saw anything this hateful.

I know this is CAS so people will say it's not objective but let's face it, nobody forced any of the people in this video to say the things they did. It's sickening.

https://twitter.com/antisemitism/status/1725120959248503196?t=fDeeEkvzU9EYNSCtc3wxYw&s=19