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Shocked by the racist signs at marches

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Pigeotto · 14/11/2023 07:14

Maybe I’m just severely naive but I’m honestly just shocked at the levels of racism of some of the signs at these marches. It’s just caught me really, really off guard.

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Trulywonderful · 18/11/2023 20:49

And repeat

Trulywonderful · 18/11/2023 20:49

And repeat

Lobster7 · 18/11/2023 20:48

@Jupitersstorm What's not a good look is using the same old human shields argument to justify the murder of children.

Jupitersstorm · 18/11/2023 20:39

Trulywonderful · 18/11/2023 20:34

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Yup - they are getting sucked in very young - or are they the sacrificial lambs for the "protestors?"

Jupitersstorm · 18/11/2023 20:38

Lobster7 · 18/11/2023 20:24

@Jupitersstorm Glad we can all agree that Israel are acting unreasonably.

I didn't say anything of the kind. All I have said is that Hamas are using their people - including children - as human shields which is very unreasonable.

Look - you've posted your usual anti - Israel whataboutery on a racist signs at marches thread and you've had your arse absolutely handed to you.

I will echo the statement put very eloquently to you earlier by another poster:" It is not a good look and we got your number honey."

Trulywonderful · 18/11/2023 20:35

Tap on the photos to enlarge and see the photos properly

Trulywonderful · 18/11/2023 20:34

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Trulywonderful · 18/11/2023 20:33

The photos from the protest outside McDonalds looks like the majority were school age teen boys to me. Am I just getting old or are these 14 to 16 year olds?

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Lobster7 · 18/11/2023 20:24

@Jupitersstorm Glad we can all agree that Israel are acting unreasonably.

Jupitersstorm · 18/11/2023 20:22

Lobster7 · 18/11/2023 20:20

@mixgoal "Good thing absolutely no one has said that then."

Glad you agree that Israel murdering children is completely unreasonable behaviour.

Nobody has said that murdering children is reasonable.

Except you.

"Lobster7 · Today 18:27

Climbing a statue = unreasonable behaviour
Murdering children in the name of self defence = totally reasonable behaviour."

Lobster7 · 18/11/2023 20:20

@mixgoal "Good thing absolutely no one has said that then."

Glad you agree that Israel murdering children is completely unreasonable behaviour.

Jupitersstorm · 18/11/2023 20:16

Look at the long video from the protest outside Starmer's office in Camden.
at 2 mins "Israel is a terror state."

Where are the arrests ?
Imagine if a group of Jewish people chanted say "Iran" or similar is a terror state in London? They would all be carted off to a police station or detention centre.

https://mol.im/a/12764819#v-7327921024712133391

Pro-Palestinian protesters try to storm McDonald's in Manchester

At Waterloo, the British Transport Police confirmed it had arrested five protesters before dispersing the sit-in to outside the station.

https://mol.im/a/12764819#v-7327921024712133391

mixgoal · 18/11/2023 19:45

Lobster7 · 18/11/2023 18:27

Climbing a statue = unreasonable behaviour
Murdering children in the name of self defence = totally reasonable behaviour

Good thing absolutely no one has said that then.

stormy4319trevor · 18/11/2023 19:16

@Stomacharmeleon I believe the siege and bombings is bad news for the hostages too. Thank you for saying you care about all children -but you know their own government is doing nothing to protect them, and most likely won't. That doesn't mean it's OK for other people to hurt them, just because they are defenceless. I'm sure you know that, anyway, will stop de railing now.

Trulywonderful · 18/11/2023 19:14

Lobster7 · 18/11/2023 19:07

@Trulywonderful So your response to people complaining about Israel abusing the Palestinians is to say but Hamas abuses them too? Hamas is bad. No one is refuting that, so I don't exactly know what point you are trying to make.

No if you bothered to read my posts then I was putting the reports on this thread because someone was suggesting a thread about Hamas behaviour towards the Gazens. I said I wasn't interested in doing that thread but here are the Amnesty reports on it.

For someone that only posted accidentally you seem to be trying to discredit me in some way. Anyone reading my posts knows what I have said. So don't waste your time and mine.

Maybe go on one of the conflict threads where your posts are on the topic being spoken about.

Stomacharmeleon · 18/11/2023 19:09

@stormy4319trevor well Hamas have said the hostages are 'in safe places and tunnels' so that remains to be seen.

And remember in the last couple of days two have been found in the al shifa compound. Hamas released footage of the gentleman in the medical bed saying 'I am not well'. An eighty year old man.

Of course I care about all children. Particularly children who are used as human shields by terrorists who could be protected by the action of their own government eg allowing the Red Cross to do a welfare check on children, pregnant women and the elderly. Things that might stop this insanity.

Lobster7 · 18/11/2023 19:07

@Trulywonderful So your response to people complaining about Israel abusing the Palestinians is to say but Hamas abuses them too? Hamas is bad. No one is refuting that, so I don't exactly know what point you are trying to make.

Trulywonderful · 18/11/2023 19:07

Lobster7 · 18/11/2023 18:27

Climbing a statue = unreasonable behaviour
Murdering children in the name of self defence = totally reasonable behaviour

This

Trulywonderful · 18/11/2023 19:05

Lobster7 · 18/11/2023 18:59

@Trulywonderful I posted that in the wrong thread. There are a lot of threads going on and I got mixed up.

Would be easier to believe it you had:

Not posted it so quickly after I posted the Amnesty reports

Asked for it to be deleted by mumsnet

Hadn't started post more whatabout when the rest of us were just talking about protests

Trulywonderful · 18/11/2023 19:02

Talk about derailing. No one here has said anything about what is happening in Gaza not being terrible

Some idiot came on to do a whatabout because Hamas behaviour is criticized.

Lobster7 · 18/11/2023 18:59

@Trulywonderful I posted that in the wrong thread. There are a lot of threads going on and I got mixed up.

Trulywonderful · 18/11/2023 18:58

They also took a largely pregnant lady that has probably given birth now if still alive

Many very old people that need medical of different sorts to stay alive or to make them comfortable and not in pain

stormy4319trevor · 18/11/2023 18:58

@Stomacharmeleon Lots of children starving, maimed and without parents in Gaza now. Do you think punishing then for the deaths of Israeli children is right? Due to the siege and continued bombing the hostages are suffering just like the people of Gaza. People who care about children care about all of them, but you only care about some.

Lobster7 · 18/11/2023 18:57

@Stomacharmeleon Yes, I can imagine and my heart breaks for those children. It's awful and no child should have to go through what they did.

It absolutely does not justify Israel murdering thousands of Palestinian children and leaving thousands more without their families, though.

Trulywonderful · 18/11/2023 18:56

Lobster7 · 18/11/2023 18:48

@Jupitersstorm Hamas murdered people on October 7th and everyone has rightly condemned them. I do not support Hamas.

Israel are currently murdering children and have been for the last 43 days. If anyone is using whataboutery, it's you.

Then why when I posted the Amnesty reports about Hamas torturing and murdering Gazan citizens did you feel the need to go all whatabout and post about Israel

Personally I don't think either side are saints. However you seem very quick to go all whataboutism when someone criticizes Hamas, very telling that. It is not a good look and we got your number honey.